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I don't believe this (Politics)
« on: 10 May 2010, 17:28:00 »

It's seems to me that a deal is in the offing. Gordon Brown has announced he will be standing down and I'm guessing this will pave the way for further discussions with the Liberals. I reckon there's a good chance that we'll end up with a coalition of losers. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. it really does.
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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #1 on: 10 May 2010, 17:37:48 »

Even if GB stands down, it still makes more sense for the Lib Dems to work with the Conservatives than Labour.  Regardless of a change at the top unless you skim the entire headshed of Labour people will not persist in support for their policies.
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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #2 on: 10 May 2010, 17:39:42 »

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Even if GB stands down, it still makes more sense for the Lib Dems to work with the Conservatives than Labour.  Regardless of a change at the top unless you skim the entire headshed of Labour people will not persist in support for their policies.

Not to Lib Dems, as most of their polices do not align with Tory. LibD's party will be split right down the middle, and come next election will be wiped out
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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #3 on: 10 May 2010, 17:39:47 »

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Even if GB stands down, it still makes more sense for the Lib Dems to work with the Conservatives than Labour.  Regardless of a change at the top unless you skim the entire headshed of Labour people will not persist in support for their policies.


Gordon has gone now for a reason.
« Last Edit: 10 May 2010, 17:40:18 by STMO999 »
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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #4 on: 10 May 2010, 17:39:58 »

He has done it purely as a spoiler.If I cant captain the team I will wreck the  game. He has obviously been told he must go , so he has done this to wreck the deal which was just about done.
The ramiifications for the economy dont bear thinking about. The markets had a sharp rise today on the back of the EU bailout and would have continued to climb in coming days with a Lib/con coalition with stability as its main focus.
The pound has already dropped 1 cent against the dollar since his statement, he may well have just destroyed the fragile recovery which he claims to be the one thing he cares about, but in reality the only thing he cares about is either getting his own way or making trouble for those who went let him get it.
A truely hateful character. >:( >:( >:(
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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #5 on: 10 May 2010, 17:42:24 »

I think Tunnie has a point. Although the Libdem members would very much prefer to go with Labour, Clegg must surely bear in mind that thie Labour/scotnat/plyd/DUP option will probably be a disaster for the country and he will be the man who gets blamed by the electorate.
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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #6 on: 10 May 2010, 17:43:09 »

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Even if GB stands down, it still makes more sense for the Lib Dems to work with the Conservatives than Labour.  Regardless of a change at the top unless you skim the entire headshed of Labour people will not persist in support for their policies.


Gordon has gone now for a reason.


Well, actually, he hasn't gone now. He's going to linger like a bad smell. I wish someone would shoot the bastard.
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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #7 on: 10 May 2010, 17:48:30 »

Trying to hang on by half a finger nail, the man has no dignity,no grip on reality, completely deluded - time for the men in white coats to bring the straitjacket
« Last Edit: 10 May 2010, 18:56:54 by albitz »
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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #8 on: 10 May 2010, 17:49:41 »

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I think Tunnie has a point. Although the Libdem members would very much prefer to go with Labour, Clegg must surely bear in mind that thie Labour/scotnat/plyd/DUP option will probably be a disaster for the country and he will be the man who gets blamed by the electorate.

The Lib Dems probably don't give a fig about the recovery or any short-term ramifications of party splits or working in a loser's coalition because until PR is on the statutes they haven't a hope of getting elected - ever.

This is their once-in-a-generation chance to be of any significance in UK politics.

Meanwhile, the country gets that useless, unelected muppet at the helm for another 6 months or more after which time another useless, unelected muppet will be foisted upon us. Talk about the worst case scenario.

I do hope I'm wrong and he's just done this out of spite to create waves in the media.

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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #9 on: 10 May 2010, 17:55:42 »

After reading another thread, I'm sorry I stated this now.
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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #10 on: 10 May 2010, 18:09:43 »

So possibly another PM nobody voted for?
I know its a Parliamentary democracy, we don't vote for the PM, but in practice many probably do. And what of the televised debates? We expected either Cameron or Brown to be the head, now we could end up with someone else altogether? I do not find this acceptable, i think if there is a change of PM during a term, there has to be an election within say 6 months.
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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #11 on: 10 May 2010, 18:20:14 »

I agree. This is a total stitch up whichever way you look at it. We had an X- factor election between Brown/Cameron/Clegg. Cameron won the election but didnt win a majority. He should be given the oppurtunity to form a minority govt.
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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #12 on: 10 May 2010, 18:40:02 »

To be honest, this has almost certainly been timed to interrupt and potential destroy the Conservative/Liberal talks. Brown has probably been planning to stand down for some time, and felt it would be okay to deceive the public. I sincerly hope the general public do not tolerate a Labour/Lib coalition as a result of this.
Why didn't Brown stand down before the election campaign, or as he should have done, Friday morning.
« Last Edit: 10 May 2010, 18:41:07 by yatesDELTA »
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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #13 on: 10 May 2010, 19:02:20 »

Exactly, if he had decency, dignity and cared anything about this country he would have made a similar speech the morning after the election. "I lost the election, I will stand down as PM as soon as a govt, is formed and as party leader when the party chooses a new leader".
Self serving doesnt begin to describe him. >:( >:(
« Last Edit: 10 May 2010, 19:03:00 by albitz »
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Re: I don't believe this (Politics)
« Reply #14 on: 10 May 2010, 19:03:32 »

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It's seems to me that a deal is in the offing. Gordon Brown has announced he will be standing down and I'm guessing this will pave the way for further discussions with the Liberals. I reckon there's a good chance that we'll end up with a coalition of losers. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. it really does.


It does for me also!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Revolution anyone? >:( >:( >:( >:(   


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