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[Dishevelled Den]

Read this with some interest....
I have no real political knowledge, but feel I may learn something from others who do by reading the threads. I do know a bit about car electrics, and help when I can definately say something that is correct and may fix a problem (but have been proved wrong a couple of times because of omega's quirks). I respect the right of anybody to have an opinion, even though I may not agree with it, and read threads that I have no real interest in, because on occasion, I have developed an interest in it later. Many people here seem to have their "cliques" and that is fine......but are always polite, and helpful to me should I ask for help. In retrospect, we all appear to be relatively tolerant of members that are a bit rude in all senses of the word, and there are also some whose sense of humour is just ultra-dry.

Is this not just the diversity of all life itself???  if we were all the same, there would be no interest or friendliness towards any man/woman?

I enjoy OOF and like the diversity of individuals here. If politics is "your bag" then fine. Yes, this is by definition a "car" forum, but we have a community too.

Thanks for reading my humble opinion.

Mike.

I think you put that well Mike, very measured and well reasoned - splendid 8-)

[albitz]

I am one of those who regularily posts on political threads. I have also tried when possible to help in the general help section when possible. I do try to bear in mind that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing, and there are some very clever technical people on OOF. So my ability to help is a bit limited.It is a fact though that some OOF members have no knowledge of mechanics and some have absolutely no interest either. If the admins dont want members who arent interested in mechanical things I think they should make it clear and ask the relevant people to leave.
Otherwise, the rest of the membership should accept that you dont need to be a petrolhead or budding mechanic to be a member.
It is imo a car forum, but it is also a lot more than that.

Thats the intention, but feel something is broken with it, and the fun aspect has diminished....

Which is why I changed my mind. People could avoid the political stuff if they wanted to, but I know for a fact that some long standing members are so fed up with seeing so much off it that they rarely go near general discussion anymore. So short of creating a new section for politics/ global warming etc I think it could be made a sticky for possibly a 3 month trial period ? and maybe join gen. dis. and car chat back together to have general chat again. It may or may not help but there is only one way to find out.  :-/

[STMO999]

I'm sooooo glad I've got a life

[feeutfo]

I'm sooooo glad I've got a life

there is that side to it...
 




oh, and well put Josh, good man.

[hotel21]

Interesting results......

[STMO999]

Interesting results......

We don't care. Go away.

[Banjax]

I'm confused....do I have to strip and rebuild an engine now before I can discuss anything else on the planet? 

I'll sign off then - good night and good luck 

[STMO999]

I'm confused....do I have to strip and rebuild an engine now before I can discuss anything else on the planet? 

I'll sign off then - good night and good luck 

TOP TIP: Never, ever rebuild an engine in the nuddy. Too many dangly bits to confuse.

[Banjax]

I'm confused....do I have to strip and rebuild an engine now before I can discuss anything else on the planet? 

I'll sign off then - good night and good luck 

TOP TIP: Never, ever rebuild an engine in the nuddy. Too many dangly bits to confuse.

I logged out on a great line STMO, trust you to ruin it 

[STMO999]

I'm confused....do I have to strip and rebuild an engine now before I can discuss anything else on the planet? 

I'll sign off then - good night and good luck 

TOP TIP: Never, ever rebuild an engine in the nuddy. Too many dangly bits to confuse.

I logged out on a great line STMO, trust you to ruin it 

Sorry mate. But no one noticed

[Banjax]

I'm confused....do I have to strip and rebuild an engine now before I can discuss anything else on the planet? 

I'll sign off then - good night and good luck 

TOP TIP: Never, ever rebuild an engine in the nuddy. Too many dangly bits to confuse.

I logged out on a great line STMO, trust you to ruin it 

Sorry mate. But no one noticed

Did someone else leave at the same time or something? 

[S190WAH]

This thread has been an interesting read.
I think one issue I notice is the unwillingness of some members to post anything other than stuff in general chat..
I knew absoulety nothing about how to fix cars when I joined, I still don't know loads. But I've learnt.
I can think of a handful of members who only ever post in general discussion, and the same few members join that discussion...and that's it.
I think, with the exception of newbies...everyone knows what the paperclip or pedal trick test is...so why not point it out to newbies who aren't sure what's wrong with their car etc etc.

To those members who don't help out...have a go, you'll soon learn things.

I have watched the current political event unfold, but don't feel the need to endlessly post about it, with another 3 or 4 people posting a reply and argue a bit about their political views, and who they'd support or how unfair everything is.

I agree with a point made earlier by chrisgixer...join in the help sections, even take a picture of your car and put it in the gallery section if you don't want to post in the help sections...get out there and interact, attend meets.

I have never had an issue with any member on this forum...ever, and I can say that about 6 or 7 members I would consider good friends, and trust imensly.
That's through everyone helping each other out, that wasn't through us discussing our political views, or our favourits music, which we may do when we meet in the 'real world' but not necessarily do on here.

I think if the few members who only ever post in gen discussion made a little effort to explore the rest of the forum...there would be no issues at all. If those members helped other members out, no one would care they only post about politics in gen chat etc. That would be a side issue, and forgotten.
When you are on a forum, your posts define you...if you are rude, people think you're a rude person in real life, because they haven't had the opportunity to meet you. In 'real life', you would try and help out fellow Omega owners, fellow humans.
Welung666 (Lee) had a good idea a while ago, an OOF mascot that could travel around...something like that I think would invigorate OOF a bit.

well said ,my opinion too 

[jonnycool]

I'm sooooo glad I've got a life

Ahh, Steve, you make me laugh, you do 

With respect to making general discussion and general car chat into one section again and having a sticky thread for this and a sticky thread for that, I think it's fine as it is. I'm a firm believer in keeping it simple and I like the format as it is. I occasionally look in on a Pug forum and there must be (hang on, I'll look) 27 forum sections, and it's far too much.

The labelling of political threads as has been done recently is a big help to those of us that are not interested, especially since the build-up to the election. Yes, it's important, but some of us just don't know enough about it to be able to comment. I have no problem with those that do want to though

There are a few 'in jokes' on here which may be a bit bemusing to an irregular user, but these are mainly on General Discussion to be fair, I think the help sections are fantastic.

Banter? That's up to you originals to keep up, the rest of us will join in 

Please don't be too negative about this place, it's a brilliant forum full of fantastic people who are all a little bit different to each other, which makes it all the more interesting 

Jon

[PhilRich]

I'm sooooo glad I've got a life

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It's life Jim, but not as we know it 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Blimey this Political Question is lasting as long as the Conservative / Lib-Dem talks did!!

So, what is the final conclusion - of this thread - and 'the Deal'??