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[Lazydocker]

I'm not so sure... Lets see what the next month or so brings before judging. At the end of the day, they can't do any worse that their predecessors... Can they? :-/

Here here - and theres me having sworn that I'd never get intp a political discussion via OOF. Give em a chance I say.

Me too... I rarely get involved in the political discussions but couldn't resist this one

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I'm not so sure... Lets see what the next month or so brings before judging. At the end of the day, they can't do any worse that their predecessors... Can they? :-/

Here here - and theres me having sworn that I'd never get intp a political discussion via OOF. Give em a chance I say.

Yes indeed, because for the first time in my life at last we have broken down the tweedle dee and tweedle dumb of British politics continual digging at each other, scoring political points.

At last the mould of old men leading tired, single minded parties, seems to have been broken with an exciting new era commencing with dynamic young party leaders.

Maybe, just maybe, this is the revolution we have been awaiting for in politics to at last take our country into a new prosperous future, after of course some very painful times!

The media will be waiting for cracks to appear in the coalition, but let us, the important people. the general public give it all a chance to work 8-) 8-)

[Nickbat]

I'm not so sure... Lets see what the next month or so brings before judging. At the end of the day, they can't do any worse that their predecessors... Can they? :-/

Here here - and theres me having sworn that I'd never get intp a political discussion via OOF. Give em a chance I say.

Yes indeed, because for the first time in my life at last we have broken down the tweedle dee and tweedle dumb of British politics continual digging at each other, scoring political points.

At last the mould of old men leading tired, single minded parties, seems to have been broken with an exciting new era commencing with dynamic young party leaders.

Maybe, just maybe, this is the revolution we have been awaiting for in politics to at last take our country into a new prosperous future, after of course some very painful times!

The media will be waiting for cracks to appear in the coalition, but let us, the important people. the general public give it all a chance to work 8-) 8-)

Youth has nothing to do with it. This is not X-factor, it's real life and we're just as capable of being stitched up by these two as we were by Brown/Mandelson. Fixed-term Parliaments are a sign of what we may expect.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I'm not so sure... Lets see what the next month or so brings before judging. At the end of the day, they can't do any worse that their predecessors... Can they? :-/

Here here - and theres me having sworn that I'd never get intp a political discussion via OOF. Give em a chance I say.

Yes indeed, because for the first time in my life at last we have broken down the tweedle dee and tweedle dumb of British politics continual digging at each other, scoring political points.

At last the mould of old men leading tired, single minded parties, seems to have been broken with an exciting new era commencing with dynamic young party leaders.

Maybe, just maybe, this is the revolution we have been awaiting for in politics to at last take our country into a new prosperous future, after of course some very painful times!

The media will be waiting for cracks to appear in the coalition, but let us, the important people. the general public give it all a chance to work 8-) 8-)

Youth has nothing to do with it. This is not X-factor, it's real life and we're just as capable of being stitched up by these two as we were by Brown/Mandelson. Fixed-term Parliaments are a sign of what we may expect.

You think Nick??

History has told us otherwise, with stubiness, dogmatism, ill health, old and tired approaches made to new modern problems and situations when the world moves on and they hadn't realised.

Examples?  I only need to quote these modern day examples; Winston Churchill 1955, Anthony Eden 1956, Edward Heath 1974, Harold Wilson 1976, Maggie Thatcher 1990, Gordon Brown 2010

As for X Factor I think any one of any intelligence knows that Nick!

But for the issues faced by the UK, and modern politics generally, we need leaders with experience and knowledge, yes, but also maximum stamina, patience, high mental capacity and perseverance, which normal goes with the younger age groups. 8-) 8-)

[Nickbat]

I'm not so sure... Lets see what the next month or so brings before judging. At the end of the day, they can't do any worse that their predecessors... Can they? :-/

Here here - and theres me having sworn that I'd never get intp a political discussion via OOF. Give em a chance I say.

Yes indeed, because for the first time in my life at last we have broken down the tweedle dee and tweedle dumb of British politics continual digging at each other, scoring political points.

At last the mould of old men leading tired, single minded parties, seems to have been broken with an exciting new era commencing with dynamic young party leaders.

Maybe, just maybe, this is the revolution we have been awaiting for in politics to at last take our country into a new prosperous future, after of course some very painful times!

The media will be waiting for cracks to appear in the coalition, but let us, the important people. the general public give it all a chance to work 8-) 8-)

Youth has nothing to do with it. This is not X-factor, it's real life and we're just as capable of being stitched up by these two as we were by Brown/Mandelson. Fixed-term Parliaments are a sign of what we may expect.

You think Nick??

History has told us otherwise, with stubiness, dogmatism, ill health, old and tired approaches made to new modern problems and situations when the world moves on and they hadn't realised.

Examples?  I only need to quote these modern day examples; Winston Churchill 1955, Anthony Eden 1956, Edward Heath 1974, Harold Wilson 1976, Maggie Thatcher 1990, Gordon Brown 2010

As for X Factor I think any one of any intelligence knows that Nick!

But for the issues faced by the UK, and modern politics generally, we need leaders with experience and knowledge, yes, but also maximum stamina, patience, high mental capacity and perseverance, which normal goes with the younger age groups. 8-) 8-)

Ageist twaddle, I'm afraid.

All of those qualities can be found in older people.

Like I said - X-Factor politics..

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I'm not so sure... Lets see what the next month or so brings before judging. At the end of the day, they can't do any worse that their predecessors... Can they? :-/

Here here - and theres me having sworn that I'd never get intp a political discussion via OOF. Give em a chance I say.

Yes indeed, because for the first time in my life at last we have broken down the tweedle dee and tweedle dumb of British politics continual digging at each other, scoring political points.

At last the mould of old men leading tired, single minded parties, seems to have been broken with an exciting new era commencing with dynamic young party leaders.

Maybe, just maybe, this is the revolution we have been awaiting for in politics to at last take our country into a new prosperous future, after of course some very painful times!

The media will be waiting for cracks to appear in the coalition, but let us, the important people. the general public give it all a chance to work 8-) 8-)

Youth has nothing to do with it. This is not X-factor, it's real life and we're just as capable of being stitched up by these two as we were by Brown/Mandelson. Fixed-term Parliaments are a sign of what we may expect.

You think Nick??

History has told us otherwise, with stubiness, dogmatism, ill health, old and tired approaches made to new modern problems and situations when the world moves on and they hadn't realised.

Examples?  I only need to quote these modern day examples; Winston Churchill 1955, Anthony Eden 1956, Edward Heath 1974, Harold Wilson 1976, Maggie Thatcher 1990, Gordon Brown 2010

As for X Factor I think any one of any intelligence knows that Nick!

But for the issues faced by the UK, and modern politics generally, we need leaders with experience and knowledge, yes, but also maximum stamina, patience, high mental capacity and perseverance, which normal goes with the younger age groups. 8-) 8-)

Ageist twaddle, I'm afraid.

All of those qualities can be found in older people.

Like I said - X-Factor politics..

No Nick, my opinion!!

Do you see the older politicians lining up for the leaders jobs in any of the main parties?  No!  Ask yourself why!!  

Do you have old men in the Premiership football teams? ; do you have old men or women still performing in athletics?
Does the British army rely on 60+ year olds fighting on the front line?  etc, etc, etc.  No NO NO!  That is life Nick!

 
You have your opinions Nick, as always, and I have mine!

Let's agree to disagree

[STMO999]

I could do the PM's job, as long as I was allowed my afternoon nap.

[Lazydocker]

I could do the PM's job, as long as I was allowed my afternoon nap.

Who asked you?

[cem_devecioglu]

I could do the PM's job, as long as I was allowed my afternoon nap.

I dont think so..can you tell a hundred lies in a minute on single feet 

[Banjax]

you're asking Mail readers to buy the Independent instead and vice versa - doesn't happen 

I'd love it to work, but sadly they'll have one month honeymoon, plus however long England stay in the World Cup, then its tears and tantrums I'm afraid 


p.s. Lizzie - much as I hate to agree with Nick again, look at the best managers of the Premiership - to use your analogy Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Roy Hodgson, Harry Redknap, Avram Grant,  Carlo Ancelotti,  Martin O'Neil, Alex Mcleish...all over 50 all succesful 
Age counts for something and it is a TV obsession with being young, smooth and neatly packaged, you think Man Utd fans care that Fergie is an alcoholic Glaswegian pensioner with a famously short temper and a face only a mother could love? 

[SJKOO01]

It's going to be an interesting few months now !!!! 

[henryd]

they will have to go some to do any worse than the last lot though :-?

[BigAl]

p.s. Lizzie - much as I hate to agree with Nick again, look at the best managers of the Premiership - to use your analogy Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Roy Hodgson, Harry Redknap, Avram Grant,  Carlo Ancelotti,  Martin O'Neil, Alex Mcleish...all over 50 all succesful 
Age counts for something and it is a TV obsession with being young, smooth and neatly packaged, you think Man Utd fans care that Fergie is an alcoholic Glaswegian pensioner with a famously short temper and a face only a mother could love? 

yeah, all successful at their secondary career, after their first one stopped when they hit mid-thirties

[Lizzie_Zoom]

you're asking Mail readers to buy the Independent instead and vice versa - doesn't happen 

I'd love it to work, but sadly they'll have one month honeymoon, plus however long England stay in the World Cup, then its tears and tantrums I'm afraid 


p.s. Lizzie - much as I hate to agree with Nick again, look at the best managers of the Premiership - to use your analogy Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Roy Hodgson, Harry Redknap, Avram Grant,  Carlo Ancelotti,  Martin O'Neil, Alex Mcleish...all over 50 all succesful 
Age counts for something and it is a TV obsession with being young, smooth and neatly packaged, you think Man Utd fans care that Fergie is an alcoholic Glaswegian pensioner with a famously short temper and a face only a mother could love? 

I was on about those who actually have to have the stamina to graft; the key players, the top politicians who have to lead and give 24/7 to their positions.  I used to do that when young in business, looking after a young family, and writting reports for the Board of Directors at 0200 in the morning fo the next days board meeting.  That you can only do when young, you cannot do it when getting older (past 50?)  That is the point I am making. 

The fact is we age, and we lose the stamina we once had once young.  That applies to the vasy majority of people, and to go back to football, the captains on the field of play at the top level usually retire from the game in their 30s.  There is a reason for that!

[Martin_1962]

Give them a chance.

Anyway they both believe in the liberty of the subject, eg no ID cards.

Civil Liberties is VERY important.

Also I think that the two parties will cancel out their sillier policies