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[hotel21]

His postcount is now back to something more approaching what it should be, and in accordance with the forum guidelines.

And I sent a PM regarding this, rather than posting in open forum.

Ayone else sent the newbie a friendly personal message, rather than simply throwing them to the wolves in the Gen Diss area??

[Welung666]

His postcount is now back to something more approaching what it should be, and in accordance with the forum guidelines.

And I sent a PM regarding this, rather than posting in open forum.

Ayone else sent the newbie a friendly personal message, rather than simply throwing them to the wolves in the Gen Diss area??

I like throwing things at wolves

[hotel21]

His postcount is now back to something more approaching what it should be, and in accordance with the forum guidelines.

And I sent a PM regarding this, rather than posting in open forum.

Ayone else sent the newbie a friendly personal message, rather than simply throwing them to the wolves in the Gen Diss area??

I like throwing things at wolves

Aye....  Right.....   

[Welung666]

Well the guidelines are there in every section, and there is a sticky at the top of the newbie section. Doesn't ignoring all those opportunities to buff up on the guidelines before, in effect, spamming, warrant a little 'poking of fun'?

[hotel21]

Poking fun at someone is most probably quite fine if those involved know each other, either personally or via their on-line persona.

For a newbie poster who, perhaps, is a real complete newbie with no/limited knowledge of web based forums (fora??) to be subject to the (admittedly, probably good natured) posts on this thread is perhaps at best, overly blunt and at worst, intimidating.  The latter tends to perhaps reinforce the frame of mind that sometimes OOF can be cliquey?

No probs with friendly jibes, just reinforcing the point that one persons fun poking is anothers rudeness....   

[Andy B]

Well the guidelines are there in every section, and there is a sticky at the top of the newbie section. Doesn't ignoring all those opportunities to buff up on the guidelines before, in effect, spamming, warrant a little 'poking of fun'?

is it not a case of when all else fails ...... read the instructions?

I don't think I've ever read them .... mainly cos I pre-date them   

[Welung666]

Poking fun at someone is most probably quite fine if those involved know each other, either personally or via their on-line persona.

For a newbie poster who, perhaps, is a real complete newbie with no/limited knowledge of web based forums (fora??) to be subject to the (admittedly, probably good natured) posts on this thread is perhaps at best, overly blunt and at worst, intimidating.  The latter tends to perhaps reinforce the frame of mind that sometimes OOF can be cliquey?

No probs with friendly jibes, just reinforcing the point that one persons fun poking is anothers rudeness....   

Courtesy of painintheenglish.com..

In Latin, forum is a neuter noun; in its plural form, it is correct to say fora

The only 'fun poked' in this instance is me mentioning the members arrival at 50 posts and commenting on the for sale section. The reason being that most people who fill a couple of pages in the newbie section are deliberately boosting their post count for the sole purpose of circumventing the guidelines on selling.

I'll admit 100% to being blunt, that's just me. Re-reading my replies I don't believe I have been intimidating in the slightest.

I think I'll just retire myself to the help sections as I did a month or so ago. 

[russ b]

in lees defense am a very new member and have been made very welcome by lee and offered countless help, nothing is a problem for the bloke and his knowledge is godlike. not intimidating or patronizing but a genuine omega enthusiast. main reason i am glad i joined is because of lee 8-)

[hotel21]

Lee - not saying you, personally, are intimidating by your responses.  However, the very nature of this thread in total, as added to by yourself and others, can potentially wrongly appear to be.   

Not meaning to stir a hornets nest in my reply, just trying to keep an open perspective on things, as any admin should on any assorted fora....   

[waspy]

I welcome as many as i can- why? Not to boost my post count as other's seem to think, but to make the "New Members" feel welcome.
I remember my first day & it was quite daunting, i was made welcome by quite a few long standing members (including Laidback) which made all the difference.
I really don't care what others think/say & i'll carry on welcoming as many as i can

[Nickbat]

His postcount is now back to something more approaching what it should be, and in accordance with the forum guidelines.

And I sent a PM regarding this, rather than posting in open forum.

Ayone else sent the newbie a friendly personal message, rather than simply throwing them to the wolves in the Gen Diss area??

I agree that this issue should NOT have been raised in General Discussion.

In such situations PM the poster or, better still, PM a Mod. 

[Welung666]

Thanks Russ 

B, I know it wasn't aimed primarily at me and as a Mod elsewhere I know it can be very difficult and time consuming dealing with things like this happening. I've been harrassed enough over complaining about multiple welcomers to stop posting in the newbie section. As I've already said, I was made extremely welcome when I joined. How would a newbie feel to post and receive no 'welcomes'? I know I'd feel unwelcome! All this from the very rare occasion of a new member trying to circumvent the rules.

EDIT: As for not PM'ing the member... They have obviously read enough of the guidelines to work out they need 50 posts to sell a car etc., but not enough to know that welcoming 2 full pages of new members to get their post count up is OK? Blatant circumvention so why not go public? Do they not think 50 welcomes would go by un-noticed?

[Mr Skrunts]

I don't go in the newbie section anymore but that's the one thing that annoys the hell out of me... just to boost a post count. Send 'em back to zero or -100 

I am afraid I no longer go in there because of all the dummy spitting a while back. Surprisingly some of us went there to genuinely welcome newcomers NOT to increase post count

Some of us still do.

I don't go in the newbie section anymore but that's the one thing that annoys the hell out of me... just to boost a post count. Send 'em back to zero or -100 

Typical

Sod the newbies.....I ignore them.....

Hopefully they will ignore you.

all of you lot with your post counts up in the 100s/1000s PLEASE remember YOU was a newbie at one time . it takes seconds to post a quick hello and show what a great forum this is . 

Exactly 

I welcome as many as i can- why? Not to boost my post count as other's seem to think, but to make the "New Members" feel welcome.
I remember my first day & it was quite daunting, i was made welcome by quite a few long standing members (including Laidback) which made all the difference.
I really don't care what others think/say & i'll carry on welcoming as many as i can

Well said Pete.   

[hotel21]

Thanks Russ 

B, I know it wasn't aimed primarily at me and as a Mod elsewhere I know it can be very difficult and time consuming dealing with things like this happening. I've been harrassed enough over complaining about multiple welcomers to stop posting in the newbie section. As I've already said, I was made extremely welcome when I joined. How would a newbie feel to post and receive no 'welcomes'? I know I'd feel unwelcome! All this from the very rare occasion of a new member trying to circumvent the rules.

EDIT: As for not PM'ing the member... They have obviously read enough of the guidelines to work out they need 50 posts to sell a car etc., but not enough to know that welcoming 2 full pages of new members to get their post count up is OK? Blatant circumvention so why not go public? Do they not think 50 welcomes would go by un-noticed?

In hindsight, fair comment.  But no sign of a car sales thread, or did I miss it??

Kevin and I deleted the excess posts which caused the stooshie and I sent a PM explaining the why and why nots.  Angle I was on about in my initial response was asking if anyone else took the moments effort to also send a PM before the person was villified on open forum.

I've said my bit.  Nowt else to add, so will leave it be....   

[scott456]

hi peeps,first of all to you welung666 you can check the forsale section theres nothing there of mine and when and if i sell my omega it will be in lots of classifieds not just oof,hotel21 my post count is 50 but if you check properly you will see ive given the best advice i can to a number of people in general help and if i was boosting my post count to sell something i would have made fifty posts in my first day not over eight like i have done.lizziezoom i can only appologise when i log in and go to new members it shows a simble of new on the post, clearly i misread this and welcomed a lot of members who have been members for a while, i have probably made the same mistake in general help aswell. so from now on i will check the date not just the post. sorry and thankyou