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Re: bloody high tech carparks
« Reply #30 on: 27 May 2010, 10:37:36 »

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i agree with pete, although i wish these parking attendants would come down hard on able-bodied shoppers sweeping into the disabled spaces in their chelsea tractors instead  >:(
They should, and the idiots that park in the mother and toddler parking spaces because its closer to the door >:(

They are also bigger, so i can park badly  :D
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Re: bloody high tech carparks
« Reply #31 on: 27 May 2010, 11:20:27 »

Hmm.... TBH Tunnie you were extracting the urine somewhat by parking there for so long and only popping in for some lunch ::) ::)

That said... I'd probably still fight it :y :y
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Re: bloody high tech carparks
« Reply #32 on: 27 May 2010, 11:28:07 »

it cost me a tenner to park in the hospital all day yesterday, more if i was there later. 3.50 to park even if its 5 mins.
£6 all day in uxbridge.
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« Reply #33 on: 27 May 2010, 11:31:00 »

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it cost me a tenner to park in the hospital all day yesterday, more if i was there later. 3.50 to park even if its 5 mins.
£6 all day in uxbridge.


I worked at Oylmpia over 10 years ago. £10...for five minutes or the whole day. Cheap for the whole day in West London but a bit steep for five minutes. ;D
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Re: bloody high tech carparks
« Reply #34 on: 27 May 2010, 12:51:20 »

I got a ticket through the post a while ago from the company monitoring Tesco's carpark in Stafford.  I got it because I'm the registered keeper - but it was the missus that parked it.  The ticket actually showed that she'd parked and overstayed her welcome twice.  They'd ignored the first one and stung on the second.  Seems reasonable to me.  She would go to town with the kids during the day and park 2 hours in Tesco and then move it to Asda and spend another 2hrs in town, so play the system.  Got caught.  Fair cop really...

Usually the reason for people leaving their cars in the supermarket car parks is because it's free, and conveniently located to something more exctiing - town centre in our case.  I can understand Tesco wanting to discourage people abusing the car park otherwise they end up being dumping grounds for the motors of people working in the town centre  and genuine customers wouldn't be able to park on the vast expanse of real estate they didn't build on.  The problem lies more with the council not providing sutiable parking at a reasonable cost (ie free) near locations that people want to be.  It's signposted, the cameras are reasonably obvious, although personally if they want to employ that tactic I'd make them really, really obvious (or put hi-vis dummy cameras that the local yobs can abuse whilst maintaining the slightly less obvious originals)

I paid the fine and shouted at the missus.  It's business, and they're protecting it from inconsiderate motorists.  The systems cheaper to run that employing someone to sit and check receipts (and is less of an inconvenience to customers).  Just makes business sense.

Yes there's a bit of a moral issue with the data, and how long it's kept for and who gets to see it.  Personally I don't think it's a huge infringement on my freedom, but (as far as I know) I've nothing to hide so don't feel particularly threatened or 'watched'.  I'd almost considerate it a worthwhile tool for the police to be able to hook into the systems to be able to track criminal movements.

Just my 2p...
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Re: bloody high tech carparks
« Reply #35 on: 27 May 2010, 14:18:24 »

an ANPR system in a mcdonalds got a transit van coming in at 12pm, failed to see it leave at about 12.30, then failed to see it return at 18.00 and managed to catch it leaving at 18:15, driver got a ticket for his apparent 6¼ hour stay, and was told the ticket wasn't worth the paper it was printed on, as, on moneysavingexpert, many are unenforceable
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Re: bloody high tech carparks
« Reply #36 on: 27 May 2010, 16:20:09 »

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an ANPR system in a mcdonalds got a transit van coming in at 12pm, failed to see it leave at about 12.30, then failed to see it return at 18.00 and managed to catch it leaving at 18:15, driver got a ticket for his apparent 6¼ hour stay, and was told the ticket wasn't worth the paper it was printed on, as, on moneysavingexpert, many are unenforceable

Exactly reports i got on mine, even show ones exactly same style posted on forums. They send about 3/4 letters then give up, as the cost of taking it to court is not worth it, as even if they win, the costs they get are £0 as its free parking anyway  ;D
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« Reply #37 on: 27 May 2010, 19:52:46 »

never mine tunnie ole lad but it does only leave you with a £29,960 deposit for yer flat ;)
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Re: bloody high tech carparks
« Reply #38 on: 27 May 2010, 20:31:15 »

There was a solicitor on Watch Dog the other week who suggested they should be folded into a paer plane & flown out of the nearest window. The programme also had the owner of one of several company vans fitted with trackers that could prove the whereabouts of this particular van whne the car park company failed to see it leaving & appearing hours later. They just told them where they could shove their 'fines'  ;)
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Re: bloody high tech carparks
« Reply #39 on: 28 May 2010, 01:48:14 »

Even if you have the technology to capture registration numbers from video, how do you get the name and address of the vehicle's registered keeper? 

Is this freely available somewhere, or do you have to apply to the DVLA for it? 

I've always been under the impression that the information was restricted to authorised users, such as the police and the courts.
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Re: bloody high tech carparks
« Reply #40 on: 28 May 2010, 09:07:57 »

Do the legalities really matter?

In this country, we appear to have lost all morals.  We know something is wrong, but do these things anyway, simply because we can knowing the law is weak in some areas.


In this case, a car was parked on private property against the rules of the land owner. Of course the land owner should be able to punish.
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Re: bloody high tech carparks
« Reply #41 on: 28 May 2010, 09:29:08 »


Anyone can buy information from the dvla based on a number plate if they have 'good cause'

Ticket I got was from a company called parking eye. Googles them and they are well known. They even send out letters saying your credit rating will be trashed and the bailifs sent around to collect. All the consumer forums and moneysaving ones just say ignore as they cannot be enfored.
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Re: bloody high tech carparks
« Reply #42 on: 28 May 2010, 09:40:13 »

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Even if you have the technology to capture registration numbers from video, how do you get the name and address of the vehicle's registered keeper? 

Is this freely available somewhere, or do you have to apply to the DVLA for it? 

I've always been under the impression that the information was restricted to authorised users, such as the police and the courts.

Nope. They bung DVLA a couple of quid and it's forthcoming.

It's even worse if you have an aircraft registered in your name. >:(

http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=EELT

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Re: bloody high tech carparks
« Reply #43 on: 28 May 2010, 11:56:43 »

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Even if you have the technology to capture registration numbers from video, how do you get the name and address of the vehicle's registered keeper? 

Is this freely available somewhere, or do you have to apply to the DVLA for it? 

I've always been under the impression that the information was restricted to authorised users, such as the police and the courts.

Nope. They bung DVLA a couple of quid and it's forthcoming.

It's even worse if you have an aircraft registered in your name. >:(

http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=EELT

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I find the wings catch on the car park barriers ;D
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Re: bloody high tech carparks
« Reply #44 on: 28 May 2010, 12:20:39 »

our business is SELLING and INSTALLING ANPR cameras and other security. With "due good reason" you can apply to the DVLA, and for £1.25 per number, they will tell you the name and address of the plate number by fax or email.

its that easy.

(due good reason having first been established, verified, and paid for.............)
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