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[Marks DTM Calib]

Ahhh pedro, so its you we have to blame for the expanding foam based re-paints 

[Martin_1962]

That's because there's gonna be a whole load of new build trains for the rest of the country - WCML have had Virgin Voyager and Pendolino trains for summat like 6 years now, everyone else has had to make do with refurbed trains.
Take the ECML, I've worked on those Mk3's and 4's a few times, refurb after refurb, and some of them were built in the late 60's.
These new trains will be built by Hitachi - parts sourced in Japan and elsewhere, but put together here in the UK, either at Gascoigne Wood near Sherburn-in-Elmet (Leeds) or somewhere in Wales.
If it does come to Gascoigne Wood, I hope to get work there, as apparently it'll bring over 500 jobs for sumat like 15 years at least.

They were made in mid 70s and on

Pretty sure I've worked on Mk3's built at Derby in 1969.
Small works plate at the footstep, but that was 5 years ago now.


Now I think about it, the new trains would be for the ECML.
Not sure, but over 300 carriages, as the old GNER had about that many Mk$ coaches on the ECML that were refurbed at Bombardier, Wakefield (RIP), then again when National Express took over (and consequently cocked it up!).
I think Grand Central had some of that GNER rolling stock too - refurbed at Central Rivers and Loogie barroogie.

Mark 2B and 2C were built in 1969

[Sixstring]

MISTRESS LIZZIE............



(visions of Lizzie in leather, with whip, 5" high heels and red lipstick.........)


Run for the hills!!!!!!!...........................................




(actually, I've recently been a very bad boy..................)

[hoofing it]

Yes finally the very last scheduled service trains using the old SR 'slam door' stock has run between Brockenhurst and Lymington, Hampshire.

Withdrawn from all other services, but retained by South West Trains on this branch line, these trains were the last of the stock that we in the south used to know so fondly in our teens, when travelling up to London for pleasure or work, then finally 35 years later hated for their drafty, battered, and unfriendly condition! 

RIP

Set 1497 at Brockenhurst:



 

just think lizzie theres lots of railway preservations with slam doors

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Yes finally the very last scheduled service trains using the old SR 'slam door' stock has run between Brockenhurst and Lymington, Hampshire.

Withdrawn from all other services, but retained by South West Trains on this branch line, these trains were the last of the stock that we in the south used to know so fondly in our teens, when travelling up to London for pleasure or work, then finally 35 years later hated for their drafty, battered, and unfriendly condition! 

RIP

Set 1497 at Brockenhurst:



 

just think lizzie theres lots of railway preservations with slam doors

I'm afraid there are very few that I know of with genuine Southern Region EMU and DMU "slam door stock" as known by the Southern commuter of past decades.

Of course most pre-grouping, grouping, and British Railway coaches had doors that you slammed shut, but these interestingly are not included in the southern definition of "slam door stock" which were in self powered EMU's or DMU's units.

[tunnie]

the problem there is very few preservation railways will have third rail electric

[Lizzie_Zoom]

the problem there is very few preservation railways will have third rail electric

Exactly right Tunnie, as, probably very wisely, no preservation railway run by amateurs with members of the public, with children, floating around will ever be licenced by the Railway Inspectorate, or the insurance companies, to do so!

A great pity!  But I know the Mid Hants uses DMU's, and other lines do likewise.  That is as far as it will go

[Kevin Wood]

the problem there is very few preservation railways will have third rail electric

Exactly right Tunnie, as, probably very wisely, no preservation railway run by amateurs with members of the public, with children, floating around will ever be licenced by the Railway Inspectorate, or the insurance companies, to do so!

A great pity!  But I know the Mid Hants uses DMU's, and other lines do likewise.  That is as far as it will go

I can't find any info. on this but I believe they ran the new Alton line rolling stock on the Watercress line before it went into service for proving and staff training using an old diesel electric loco as a DC power source instead of the third rail.

I certainly remember it throbbing up and down the line most evenings until quite late. Fortunately it was before we moved house so it wasn't at the bottom of the garden then but the other side of Alton.

Kevin

[Lizzie_Zoom]

the problem there is very few preservation railways will have third rail electric

Exactly right Tunnie, as, probably very wisely, no preservation railway run by amateurs with members of the public, with children, floating around will ever be licenced by the Railway Inspectorate, or the insurance companies, to do so!

A great pity!  But I know the Mid Hants uses DMU's, and other lines do likewise.  That is as far as it will go

I can't find any info. on this but I believe they ran the new Alton line rolling stock on the Watercress line before it went into service for proving and staff training using an old diesel electric loco as a DC power source instead of the third rail.

I certainly remember it throbbing up and down the line most evenings until quite late. Fortunately it was before we moved house so it wasn't at the bottom of the garden then but the other side of Alton.

Kevin

I had heard that Kevin   Wish I had been there to see the test running

[Marks DTM Calib]

the problem there is very few preservation railways will have third rail electric

Exactly right Tunnie, as, probably very wisely, no preservation railway run by amateurs with members of the public, with children, floating around will ever be licenced by the Railway Inspectorate, or the insurance companies, to do so!

A great pity!  But I know the Mid Hants uses DMU's, and other lines do likewise.  That is as far as it will go

Indeed although from what I have seen, thats not massively more risk than the 'big railway' either 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

the problem there is very few preservation railways will have third rail electric

Exactly right Tunnie, as, probably very wisely, no preservation railway run by amateurs with members of the public, with children, floating around will ever be licenced by the Railway Inspectorate, or the insurance companies, to do so!

A great pity!  But I know the Mid Hants uses DMU's, and other lines do likewise.  That is as far as it will go

Indeed although from what I have seen, thats not massively more risk than the 'big railway' either 

Too true Mark!   It is amazing what some members of the public do!

This has reminded me of what I was told by an old railway engine driver on the Mid Hants.  He told a number of us when discussing third rail electrification, that back in steam days he knew a member of footplate crew who peed from the engine...............onto the third rail!!    He died!!

[tunnie]

the problem there is very few preservation railways will have third rail electric

Exactly right Tunnie, as, probably very wisely, no preservation railway run by amateurs with members of the public, with children, floating around will ever be licenced by the Railway Inspectorate, or the insurance companies, to do so!

A great pity!  But I know the Mid Hants uses DMU's, and other lines do likewise.  That is as far as it will go

Indeed although from what I have seen, thats not massively more risk than the 'big railway' either 

Too true Mark!   It is amazing what some members of the public do!

This has reminded me of what I was told by an old railway engine driver on the Mid Hants.  He told a number of us when discussing third rail electrification, that back in steam days he knew a member of footplate crew who peed from the engine...............onto the third rail!!    He died!!

I remember that one from mythbusters, think that one was busted. Current could travel up the errr 'stream' but not enough to kill

[Lizzie_Zoom]

the problem there is very few preservation railways will have third rail electric

Exactly right Tunnie, as, probably very wisely, no preservation railway run by amateurs with members of the public, with children, floating around will ever be licenced by the Railway Inspectorate, or the insurance companies, to do so!

A great pity!  But I know the Mid Hants uses DMU's, and other lines do likewise.  That is as far as it will go

Indeed although from what I have seen, thats not massively more risk than the 'big railway' either 

Too true Mark!   It is amazing what some members of the public do!

This has reminded me of what I was told by an old railway engine driver on the Mid Hants.  He told a number of us when discussing third rail electrification, that back in steam days he knew a member of footplate crew who peed from the engine...............onto the third rail!!    He died!!

I remember that one from mythbusters, think that one was busted. Current could travel up the errr 'stream' but not enough to kill

All I can say Tunnie was this particular engine driver told us that story in the late 1970s, and he knew the chap who had died.  The blokes wee had apparently completed a circuit with him holding the engine side rail; the power went straight through him to earth!

[Kevin Wood]

I remember that one from mythbusters, think that one was busted. Current could travel up the errr 'stream' but not enough to kill

That was from an electric fence though, IIRC. A somewhat higher impedance source than a third rail.

Kevin

[Seth]

We're still using a first-generation single-car DMU on Cardiff Queen St - Cardiff Bay shuttles.
It's a Class 121 'Bubble Car'.