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[OZZY4rm NOTTS]

people - I think there are lessons to be learned all round today.  IMHO I dont think the majority of peeps here are racist. . . but do feel sometimes unknowingly and indeed unintentionally may offend people - therefore, should be a little more considerate.

I have really enjoyed OOF and even feel this and the other threads have been healthy debating, good for all in the long run. Please dont be upset / annoyed / angry with anything I have said. . .  I just wanted to highlight my view.

I have also figured that alerting Mods in not an appreciated thing, right??  I understand now.

[albitz]

Every member has the same right as another one to alert mods if they feel it is necassary. It is generally percieved to be something to be used for serious/urgent matters which need to be brought to their attention immediately. So we are back to the issue of judgement again, which is of course subjective.

[OZZY4rm NOTTS]

Challenging own beliefs is excellent, perhaps you (and other too) ought to lead by example.

so where do we go from here?  I think the options you have given me are ok but if I may suggest that we use our sense of judgement a little more it MAY help. 

If the legal definition of racist / racism is not a good indicator "if in doubt leave it out". . .
imagine the joke is told by a non-stereotyped individual in a room full of those very stereotyped people in the joke. . .if that person believes the joke will be fine and go down well,  then go agead and say it. . . .

if however, that person thinks he will get his / her head kicked in - along with a visit to the nearest A&E - do not!

agreed??

Nah - Not if i'm going to have to explain the punchline to all those people

 

[OZZY4rm NOTTS]

"subjective"

absolutely Albs - this is the key.

I think we are almost at another round about! as I can sense we're bout to go round in circles again!

(Dont fancy wasting another "tank of fuel" on this one )

sorted??   

[jereboam]

I was one of those who objected to the joke on the grounds that it was both offensive and racist. 

I don't generally mind "offensive", but I'm not currently in the right frame of mind to accept what I consider to be racist connotations when making jokes about unemployment and benefits.

Sorry about that.

[MikeDundee]

I posted a joke yesterday (deleted by admins) that apparently upset one or two people. I know it was a bit un-PC but it was not my intention to cause offence and I apologise to anyone I may have offended.
Those on here that know me know that it would be most unlike me to offend people.

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  , Now that's the best joke I've heard this week

[Mr Skrunts]

I was one of those who objected to the joke on the grounds that it was both offensive and racist. 

I don't generally mind "offensive", but I'm not currently in the right frame of mind to accept what I consider to be racist connotations when making jokes about unemployment and benefits.

Sorry about that.

But you're a boring old fart and complain about everything 

[bob.dent]

I posted a joke yesterday (deleted by admins) that apparently upset one or two people. I know it was a bit un-PC but it was not my intention to cause offence and I apologise to anyone I may have offended.
Those on here that know me know that it would be most unlike me to offend people.

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  , Now that's the best joke I've heard this week

I've obviously spent too much time with you Mike!!

[jereboam]

I was one of those who objected to the joke on the grounds that it was both offensive and racist. 

I don't generally mind "offensive", but I'm not currently in the right frame of mind to accept what I consider to be racist connotations when making jokes about unemployment and benefits.

Sorry about that.

But you're a boring old fart and complain about everything 

But you're a boring old fart - very true

and complain about everything - don't complain about the OOF usually, except when it gets boring.

[Mr Skrunts]

Things in this thread have been brought up a few times in the time I have been a member.

In general, no joke will suit everyone.  Hence it was debated and agreed (To a point) to mahe more use of smiles in the titles and add warning especially to those pratts who posted up the lovely youtube video's that ended in the scary images and loud screams that could have affected people of a delicate disposition.

Pictures with flesh/nudity get a NWS warning as do most jokes, other jokes need a warning to suit.

The point then is if there has been a warning posted about it's content then any one viewing was pre warned, there is no point in nuking a post for one complaint, but there is a case if multiple complaints.

But I will also add if it's the same people complaining about the jokes each time them why do you read them and complain when there are warning on them.  Plus the people complaining - how much of a contributor to the forum.

Ozzy - You seem to be getting a feel for the forum, it's like a kids playground at time's, odd rude word, dirty joke, wise crack, spitting of dummy and falling out.  The attitude of the forum seems to change every 1000 new members or so, and the ones that have been here the longest like the change the least, I am now seeing the 2nd or 3rd attitude change in the forum since I joined.  Basically we end up chatting on different levels, you either join in or leave them to it. 

There are lots of things I have no interest in, like the bus thread, but look at the length of the thread and how many have contributed.  Some times serious threads die in  2 or 3 replies, and the stopid threads go on for ever.

The people that take stuff too seriously on here tend to get wound up and leave, whats the point, The main stuff on here is in the car related threads, no bad language, no falling out.

General chat, is general chat, like being in the pub, it's where it all happens, only difference is, when it all kicks off there are no fisty cuffs.   

[bob.dent]

Right, I think this thread's run it's course now and all views aired. It's a shame really because most jokes I receive or hear involve a slight degree of "un-PCness" for want of a better word, and are funny taken in the right context. In the years I've been on this forum I've posted and seen jokes that are probably more "risque" than this one was and everyone's always taken it in the light hearted manner in which it was posted. I won't bother posting anymore jokes as a result of this furore which is a shame as it was just a case of brightening up General Chat with a bit of a laugh.

[Mr Skrunts]

Totally agree Bob, havent really posted any jokes for a while now myself.  :-/

[The Red Baron]

Right, I think this thread's run it's course now and all views aired. It's a shame really because most jokes I receive or hear involve a slight degree of "un-PCness" for want of a better word, and are funny taken in the right context. In the years I've been on this forum I've posted and seen jokes that are probably more "risque" than this one was and everyone's always taken it in the light hearted manner in which it was posted. I won't bother posting anymore jokes as a result of this furore which is a shame as it was just a case of brightening up General Chat with a bit of a laugh.

dont take it too personal bob.

[johnnycboy]

I posted a joke yesterday (deleted by admins) that apparently upset one or two people. I know it was a bit un-PC but it was not my intention to cause offence and I apologise to anyone I may have offended.
Those on here that know me know that it would be most unlike me to offend people.

Your creating agro again Bob.

I know you would not want to cause offence.  

I didnt see it but when I see you next you can tell me .

[STMO999]

Shut up you gang of fannies.