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[Mr Skrunts]

Just watching another Police program.

Just realised that went they do a raid, they surround the house, shout for attention whilst looking at windows for movemrnt and then just belt the carp out of the door to get in.

Why dont they ever check the door handle to see if it's unlocked.  :-/

just a thought.

[Sixstring]

If you was doin' the bizness, cuttin' the stuff, bro, would YOU leave the door unlocked???

[Kevin Wood]

Just watching another Police program.

Just realised that went they do a raid, they surround the house, shout for attention whilst looking at windows for movemrnt and then just belt the carp out of the door to get in.

Why dont they ever check the door handle to see if it's unlocked.  :-/

just a thought.

.. before battering it down and finding a terrified little old lady knitting in front of the fire.

Kevin

[karlc]

a mate in the drugs squad says they always go round the back as most dealers dont reinforce or lock their back doors and they just walk in - no fuss!! telly ones are just show!

[Richie London]

they sit in the library car park every so often pulling tax dodgers, not a few but usually about 12 of them. total waste of manpower. does it really take that many coppers to write a ticket out or to get the car impounded. pathetic in my opinion

[JamesV6CDX]

they sit in the library car park every so often pulling tax dodgers, not a few but usually about 12 of them. total waste of manpower. does it really take that many coppers to write a ticket out or to get the car impounded. pathetic in my opinion

I expect they are looking at slightly more than just tax discs.... .

[JamesV6CDX]

Why dont they ever check the door handle to see if it's unlocked.  :-/

For this reason:

To add to the challenges facing police, they often find that door handles have been rigged to live electricity cables as a booby-trap deterrent to keep out rival gangs who might steal the crop

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7152709.stm

[Peachy]

they sit in the library car park every so often pulling tax dodgers, not a few but usually about 12 of them. total waste of manpower. does it really take that many coppers to write a ticket out or to get the car impounded. pathetic in my opinion

I expect they are looking at slightly more than just tax discs.... .

Why do I think you are speaking from experience?
Also, with ANPR they don't really need the combined efforts of a 12 man team, and VOSA now have stopping power so the police are not needed there either. So more time to drink tea in the station.

[Sixstring]

Di, you are such a cynic. All good coppers are out and about looking for real lawbreakers such as people riding bikes on the pavement and people with illegally spaced number plates.................LOL!

[Richie London]

they sit in the library car park every so often pulling tax dodgers, not a few but usually about 12 of them. total waste of manpower. does it really take that many coppers to write a ticket out or to get the car impounded. pathetic in my opinion

I expect they are looking at slightly more than just tax discs.... .

my cousin is a copper and he has been there doing it as well, its a place you cant avoid to get into the centre of yiewsley. so i guess your wrong there mate. they have a couple of lorries sitting in the car park with them ready to put the cars on the back. 

[JamesV6CDX]

Why do I think you are speaking from experience?


Also, with ANPR they don't really need the combined efforts of a 12 man team,

ANPR is good - but only as an additional policing resource.

It can't detect bald tyres, dangerous vehicles, unrestrained kids, mobile phones... so on.

And even if ANPR is showing a vehicle as fully insured - how do you know the person driving it, is the same person who owns it / holds insurance?

It also can't detect if the number plate on any given car, is actually correct - someone could have easily cloned a plate to disguise a stolen car and fool ANPR.

It could come up on ANPR as totally legit, when in reality, it's being driven by a drunk, uninsured disqual driver.

ANPR is fantastic, don't get me wrong - but only as an additional policing resource - it's not the be and end all.

and VOSA now have stopping power so the police are not needed there either.

Not convinced. While VOSA can do things like prohibit dangerous vehicles, they couldn't arrest a drink driver, or a drugs courier, or do a S165 seizure on an uninsured driver.

Am afraid that, despite these measures and technology such as ANPR (which are obviously good), I feel police roadchecks are very much necessary.

No real substitute for human checks.

 So more time to drink tea in the station.

No biscuits?


Reason for edit - tidying quotes.

[Richie London]

Di, you are such a cynic. All good coppers are out and about looking for real lawbreakers such as people riding bikes on the pavement and people with illegally spaced number plates.................LOL!

not all of them, they did turn up 3 days later downstairs at the africans flat to take fingerprints, after the window was replaced, and all the mess cleaned up. excellent service they provide round here.

[JamesV6CDX]

they sit in the library car park every so often pulling tax dodgers, not a few but usually about 12 of them. total waste of manpower. does it really take that many coppers to write a ticket out or to get the car impounded. pathetic in my opinion

I expect they are looking at slightly more than just tax discs.... .

my cousin is a copper and he has been there doing it as well, its a place you cant avoid to get into the centre of yiewsley. so i guess your wrong there mate. they have a couple of lorries sitting in the car park with them ready to put the cars on the back. 

This is probably a multi agency /partnership working op with Police / DVLA -

While I have no doubt they ARE looking at tax discs, based on what you say, I am almost certain the officers would be looking at a wider range of traffic matters.

[Dishevelled Den]

Why do I think you are speaking from experience?


Also, with ANPR they don't really need the combined efforts of a 12 man team,

ANPR is good - but only as an additional policing resource.

It can't detect bald tyres, dangerous vehicles, unrestrained kids, mobile phones... so on.

And even if ANPR is showing a vehicle as fully insured - how do you know the person driving it, is the same person who owns it / holds insurance?

It also can't detect if the number plate on any given car, is actually correct - someone could have easily cloned a plate to disguise a stolen car and fool ANPR.

It could come up on ANPR as totally legit, when in reality, it's being driven by a drunk, uninsured disqual driver.

ANPR is fantastic, don't get me wrong - but only as an additional policing resource - it's not the be and end all.

and VOSA now have stopping power so the police are not needed there either.

Not convinced. While VOSA can do things like prohibit dangerous vehicles, they couldn't arrest a drink driver, or a drugs courier, or do a S165 seizure on an uninsured driver.

Am afraid that, despite these measures and technology such as ANPR (which are obviously good), I feel police roadchecks are very much necessary.

No real substitute for human checks.

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 So more time to drink tea in the station.

No biscuits?[/quote]



This is why you need police officers on the ground doing their job and not the paperwork generated by the overbearing regulations that relate to health and safety/political sensitivities and the whimsy of those in the middle/upper management structure determined to make the grade by employing any means possible that doesn’t highlight them as being the ones to have made a decision/engaged in original thinking.

[Richie London]

Why do I think you are speaking from experience?


Also, with ANPR they don't really need the combined efforts of a 12 man team,

ANPR is good - but only as an additional policing resource.

It can't detect bald tyres, dangerous vehicles, unrestrained kids, mobile phones... so on.

And even if ANPR is showing a vehicle as fully insured - how do you know the person driving it, is the same person who owns it / holds insurance?

It also can't detect if the number plate on any given car, is actually correct - someone could have easily cloned a plate to disguise a stolen car and fool ANPR.

It could come up on ANPR as totally legit, when in reality, it's being driven by a drunk, uninsured disqual driver.

ANPR is fantastic, don't get me wrong - but only as an additional policing resource - it's not the be and end all.

and VOSA now have stopping power so the police are not needed there either.

Not convinced. While VOSA can do things like prohibit dangerous vehicles, they couldn't arrest a drink driver, or a drugs courier, or do a S165 seizure on an uninsured driver.

Am afraid that, despite these measures and technology such as ANPR (which are obviously good), I feel police roadchecks are very much necessary.

No real substitute for human checks.

 So more time to drink tea in the station.

No biscuits?


Reason for edit - tidying quotes.

yes james, my mates brother, hes been banned for the last 20 yrs as far as im aware. even been in prison 4 times for driving while banned. he will die an alcoholic or he will kill someone by driving. even got caught driving the day he got out of prison once.