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[sjc]

i can remember years ago driving down a winding country rd at 3am in thick fog doing 70mph, with no lights on. very stupid stunt then by a young wreckless idiot 

Yeah, I cringe when I think back to the crazy things I've done in cars over the years.

Doesn't stop me though!   

The thing that worries me is will my son do the same when he's old enough to drive?  Mind you, petrol will probably be 10 times the price by then.   

i wrote off my first senator in birmingham in 1993, doing over a 100 in severe rain on the m42. if it wasnt raining i wouldnt of slid like i did and would of probably rolled over a dozen times and died. its only when you get older and realise how mental you really were.

I remember coming back from the bucks fizz auditions, had a crap day, had a nosy roumd london and just wanted to get home, was following a 760 GLT up the M1 at ?mph and he would'nt move then he aquplaned on some standing water (as I did) he pulled over I carried onm things we do when we were younger and not so wise.

I think the closer escape was not getting in the band!

You could've ended up like that David whats-his-puss that was on "I'm a nobody, let me feel Jordans knockers".

[Mr Skrunts]

i can remember years ago driving down a winding country rd at 3am in thick fog doing 70mph, with no lights on. very stupid stunt then by a young wreckless idiot 

Yeah, I cringe when I think back to the crazy things I've done in cars over the years.

Doesn't stop me though!   

The thing that worries me is will my son do the same when he's old enough to drive?  Mind you, petrol will probably be 10 times the price by then.   

i wrote off my first senator in birmingham in 1993, doing over a 100 in severe rain on the m42. if it wasnt raining i wouldnt of slid like i did and would of probably rolled over a dozen times and died. its only when you get older and realise how mental you really were.

I remember coming back from the bucks fizz auditions, had a crap day, had a nosy roumd london and just wanted to get home, was following a 760 GLT up the M1 at ?mph and he would'nt move then he aquplaned on some standing water (as I did) he pulled over I carried onm things we do when we were younger and not so wise.

I fancy Cheryl Baker, even now!!!    Cooooooooooor!!!!

It's sad I know, I cant even remember the name of the one that the auditions were going to replace, but it was a complete pee take.  My girlfriend used to write her own songs and was a lovlt singer but she couldnt read music allthough she was brilliant with  6 and 12 string guitars. any way we thought it was worth a bash so off we went.

2000 girls turned up, hurded in 20 at a time, and based on looks were told to come back or told sorry.  When she enquired what the the problem was, she was told she looked the part but was too short at 5'2"  So much for talent, none of them sang a note in the 1st audition.

[sjc]

and of course the female driver

PMSL...  I'd show that to SWMBO but I'd be worried she'd want one!

[Sixstring]

Just thinking................how many auditions I have attended where the guitarist or singer doesn't even sing or play, but is judged on his/her looks and possibly even the size of her bustline................

drove all the way to london once for about 3 minutes. Didn't even open my guitar case, was told I was too tall, cos the rest of the group were only average 5ft 8", and I'm 6ft ish......How shallow.

[Richie London]

Just thinking................how many auditions I have attended where the guitarist or singer doesn't even sing or play, but is judged on his/her looks and possibly even the size of her bustline................

drove all the way to london once for about 3 minutes. Didn't even open my guitar case, was told I was too tall, cos the rest of the group were only average 5ft 8", and I'm 6ft ish......How shallow.

dolly parton looks good when she sings 

[Sixstring]

Yes, but she plays 6 instruments, writes and arranges all her own music, reads and writes stave too, and sings beautifully. She is also a hard businesswoman too.
The fact she has a cracking bustline on her is actually quite lost on me after that.

[sjc]

Just thinking................how many auditions I have attended where the guitarist or singer doesn't even sing or play, but is judged on his/her looks and possibly even the size of her bustline................

drove all the way to london once for about 3 minutes. Didn't even open my guitar case, was told I was too tall, cos the rest of the group were only average 5ft 8", and I'm 6ft ish......How shallow.

dolly parton looks good when she sings 

She sings ?!?!?!     I never noticed that before!

[Pitchfork]

There's on old guy in Dublin who wrote a song 'Dolly Partons' Hits'
 

[sjc]

There's on old guy in Dublin who wrote a song 'Dolly Partons' Hits'
 

How many did she have? 

[sjc]

Perhaps we should return to the topic?

10 to 2 is taught for the purpose of passing the driving test, and adding to that is a method advised for safe driving.

They reckon that if toy can not steer fast enough using the 10 to 2 method then you are driving too fast for that road or conditions, and in all honesty I believe that to be a fair comment.

Now after passing my test then obviosly so did my driving, one of the best frivers I ever saw was my old man, every time I looked at the speedo (On a run to the coast) it was reading 90, we never held traffic up, and he allways drove within his capabilites (Dont forget we are talking may years ago with a lot less traffic) no matter what happened regards roads, traffic, idiots, bikers, even animals driving through the country.  He had 3 things he could do instanlty.  Brake, accelerate, or steer.  We had BMW autos, brakes were allways in tip top condition and best quailty parts, and the best tyres on the market.  He found to accelerate quicker that kickdown was a tad slow so he used to kick down and drop it in 2nd at the same time.

But it was his attitude to steering I most remember.  He was allways ready to change direction.  The one tip he passed on to me was so simple.  If you are driving fast, you will be changing gear a lot, keep your right hand at 12 on the wheel and if you need a rapid change you have the maximum movement of the wheel to the left or the right with out letting go of the wheel.  To be fair it's never let me down.

But to back the wheel shufflers, Russel Brookes a renowned rally man allways drove this way, and yes he had a quick rack fitted but this method worked for him, and guess who he trained, yup Andy Green (Look him up  )

I must admit I catch myself driving like that quite a lot but immediately move my hands when I realise cos that's how you see a lot of chav boy racers driving.  I must be mad, who the heck notices a silver Omega anyway!  Present company excepted of course.

[Martin_1962]

Just thinking................how many auditions I have attended where the guitarist or singer doesn't even sing or play, but is judged on his/her looks and possibly even the size of her bustline................

drove all the way to london once for about 3 minutes. Didn't even open my guitar case, was told I was too tall, cos the rest of the group were only average 5ft 8", and I'm 6ft ish......How shallow.

A friend who is an excellent guitarist and excellent song writer was kicked out of a band for not looking rock star enough. Dianno is an idiot!

Then next album they had trouble writing it.

[pscocoa]

Until this thread I had never given my steering wheel style any thought.

However, here goes:
1. I am left handed
2. I have big hands
3. My left hand stays most of the time on my left knee (no funny business though) and only comes into play when needed for a left turn or some sort of more severe manoeuvre
4. Most of my steering is with right hand with my thumb beneath the horn sign on right of steering wheel and my 2nd and 3rd fingers on left of wheel and 4th and 5th on right of wheel so effectively I grip steering wheel between 3rd and 4th fingers above the horn sign (with thumb below).
5. there are variations on this theme but always with right hand.
6. this explains a post I made a few weeks ago about the worn material on steering wheel air bag cover around the horn.

I may need therapy!

[Del Boy]

No flak - agree with you

And me 

[Mr Skrunts]

Perhaps we should return to the topic?

10 to 2 is taught for the purpose of passing the driving test, and adding to that is a method advised for safe driving.

They reckon that if toy can not steer fast enough using the 10 to 2 method then you are driving too fast for that road or conditions, and in all honesty I believe that to be a fair comment.

Now after passing my test then obviosly so did my driving, one of the best frivers I ever saw was my old man, every time I looked at the speedo (On a run to the coast) it was reading 90, we never held traffic up, and he allways drove within his capabilites (Dont forget we are talking may years ago with a lot less traffic) no matter what happened regards roads, traffic, idiots, bikers, even animals driving through the country.  He had 3 things he could do instanlty.  Brake, accelerate, or steer.  We had BMW autos, brakes were allways in tip top condition and best quailty parts, and the best tyres on the market.  He found to accelerate quicker that kickdown was a tad slow so he used to kick down and drop it in 2nd at the same time.

But it was his attitude to steering I most remember.  He was allways ready to change direction.  The one tip he passed on to me was so simple.  If you are driving fast, you will be changing gear a lot, keep your right hand at 12 on the wheel and if you need a rapid change you have the maximum movement of the wheel to the left or the right with out letting go of the wheel.  To be fair it's never let me down.

But to back the wheel shufflers, Russel Brookes a renowned rally man allways drove this way, and yes he had a quick rack fitted but this method worked for him, and guess who he trained, yup Andy Green (Look him up  )

I must admit I catch myself driving like that quite a lot but immediately move my hands when I realise cos that's how you see a lot of chav boy racers driving.  I must be mad, who the heck notices a silver Omega anyway!  Present company excepted of course.

My bad habbit is to rest my left elbow on the top of the passenger seat and have the right hand at 3 with my elbow on the window ledge and tootle arround at 30mph.

[Vamps]

10 to 2 is taught for the purpose of passing the driving test, and adding to that is a method advised for safe driving.

They reckon that if toy can not steer fast enough using the 10 to 2 method then you are driving too fast for that road or conditions, and in all honesty I believe that to be a fair comment.

Now after passing my test then obviosly so did my driving, one of the best frivers I ever saw was my old man, every time I looked at the speedo (On a run to the coast) it was reading 90, we never held traffic up, and he allways drove within his capabilites (Dont forget we are talking may years ago with a lot less traffic) no matter what happened regards roads, traffic, idiots, bikers, even animals driving through the country.  He had 3 things he could do instanlty.  Brake, accelerate, or steer.  We had BMW autos, brakes were allways in tip top condition and best quailty parts, and the best tyres on the market.  He found to accelerate quicker that kickdown was a tad slow so he used to kick down and drop it in 2nd at the same time.

But it was his attitude to steering I most remember.  He was allways ready to change direction.  The one tip he passed on to me was so simple.  If you are driving fast, you will be changing gear a lot, keep your right hand at 12 on the wheel and if you need a rapid change you have the maximum movement of the wheel to the left or the right with out letting go of the wheel.  To be fair it's never let me down.

But to back the wheel shufflers, Russel Brookes a renowned rally man allways drove this way, and yes he had a quick rack fitted but this method worked for him, and guess who he trained, yup Andy Green (Look him up  )

I know him, and have driven most of his Rally Cars.. Escorts Mk 1 and 2, Sunbeam, Chevette and Opel Manta, Only the Manta was never parked on my drive at some time or other Used to work for Andrews Heat for Hire, and remember Russel before he was a works driver, Car prepared at Wolverhampton, they also ran V6 Transits, but the would not let me have one..... Had one of the very first MK2 transits mind, very American at the time...