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[Banjax]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10872780

or have I missed something? 

[albitz]

I dont know,do you know ?

[PhilRich]

Can't see what all the bloody fuss is about personally!

[Banjax]

waste of perfectly good meat if you ask me 

[hercules]

they ought to clone and make production quicker and bring the price of fillet steak down

[Lizzie_Zoom]

This is the problem apparently:

[size=22]"[/size]What are the risks of cloning?

Reproductive cloning is expensive and highly inefficient. More than 90% of cloning attempts fail to produce viable offspring. More than 100 nuclear transfer procedures could be required to produce one viable clone. In addition to low success rates, cloned animals tend to have more compromised immune function and higher rates of infection, tumor growth, and other disorders. Japanese studies have shown that cloned mice live in poor health and die early. About a third of the cloned calves born alive have died young, and many of them were abnormally large. Many cloned animals have not lived long enough to generate good data about how clones age. Appearing healthy at a young age unfortunately is not a good indicator of long-term survival. Clones have been known to die mysteriously. For example, Australia's first cloned sheep appeared healthy and energetic on the day she died, and the results from her autopsy failed to determine a cause of death.[size=22]"[/size]  Ref: http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/cloning.shtml

In other words it is currently bad for the animals, and may well be bad for humans who consume them and their products.

[hercules]

This is the problem apparently:

[size=22]"[/size]What are the risks of cloning?

Reproductive cloning is expensive and highly inefficient. More than 90% of cloning attempts fail to produce viable offspring. More than 100 nuclear transfer procedures could be required to produce one viable clone. In addition to low success rates, cloned animals tend to have more compromised immune function and higher rates of infection, tumor growth, and other disorders. Japanese studies have shown that cloned mice live in poor health and die early. About a third of the cloned calves born alive have died young, and many of them were abnormally large. Many cloned animals have not lived long enough to generate good data about how clones age. Appearing healthy at a young age unfortunately is not a good indicator of long-term survival. Clones have been known to die mysteriously. For example, Australia's first cloned sheep appeared healthy and energetic on the day she died, and the results from her autopsy failed to determine a cause of death.[size=22]"[/size]  Ref: http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/cloning.shtml

In other words it is currently bad for the animals, and may well be bad for humans who consume them and their products.

so what your saying is we need to eat them quick

[Debs.]

Can't see what all the bloody fuss is about personally!

My feelings too!

Spontaneous genetic mutations happen naturally (or is that un-naturally?) all the time, so I don`t see cloning as any more prone to mutative susceptibility compared to 'natural' offspring.
Animals produce mono-zygotic twins (as do people), so in that sense they are exact genetic copies of each other: like clones.
I think fear of the unknown and media-fueled hysteria may be holding 'proper' (safe) cloning science back.

[Dishevelled Den]

This is the problem apparently:

[size=22]"[/size]What are the risks of cloning?

Reproductive cloning is expensive and highly inefficient. More than 90% of cloning attempts fail to produce viable offspring. More than 100 nuclear transfer procedures could be required to produce one viable clone. In addition to low success rates, cloned animals tend to have more compromised immune function and higher rates of infection, tumor growth, and other disorders. Japanese studies have shown that cloned mice live in poor health and die early. About a third of the cloned calves born alive have died young, and many of them were abnormally large. Many cloned animals have not lived long enough to generate good data about how clones age. Appearing healthy at a young age unfortunately is not a good indicator of long-term survival. Clones have been known to die mysteriously. For example, Australia's first cloned sheep appeared healthy and energetic on the day she died, and the results from her autopsy failed to determine a cause of death.[size=22]"[/size]  Ref: http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/cloning.shtml

In other words it is currently bad for the animals, and may well be bad for humans who consume them and their products.

I'm inclined to agree with you Lizzie, while great strides are presently being made in field of genetics - strides that may well be of benefit to us all - the implications of this research will only become apparent over time.

Regarding this specific issue, it might be premature to consider the product safe for consumption, in the long term.

[Terbs]

Can't see what all the bloody fuss is about personally!

My feelings too!

Spontaneous genetic mutations happen naturally (or is that un-naturally?) all the time, so I don`t see cloning as any more prone to mutative susceptibility compared to 'natural' offspring.
Animals produce mono-zygotic twins (as do people), so in that sense they are exact genetic copies of each other: like clones.
I think fear of the unknown and media-fueled hysteria may be holding 'proper' (safe) cloning science back.

Does not that apply to most of the kids nowadays ??

[Vamps]

Can't see what all the bloody fuss is about personally!

My feelings too!

genetic mutations happen naturally (or is that un-naturally?) all the time, so I don`t see cloning as any more prone to mutative susceptibility compared to 'natural' offspring.
Animals produce mono-zygotic twins (as do people), so in that sense they are exact genetic copies of each other: like clones.
I think fear of the unknown and media-fueled hysteria may be holding 'proper' (safe) cloning science back.

Does not that apply to most of the kids nowadays ??

STMO clones, now is the time to worry......

[Tony H]

I can't see a problem with eating it or drinking the milk produced from a cloaned beast however if you were to try to reproduce with it then thats  another matter :-/

[Banjax]

I can't see a problem with eating it or drinking the milk produced from a cloaned beast however if you were to try to reproduce with it then thats  another matter :-/

yes - I'd phone a constable if I caught you 

[Dishevelled Den]

I can't see a problem with eating it or drinking the milk produced from a cloaned beast however if you were to try to reproduce with it then thats  another matter :-/

yes - I'd phone a constable if I caught you 

I did see this film on an RFA many years ago..................

[Mr Trifle]

We thought it was safe too feed cows with  chicken and cow but later decide best not after BSE (isnt it amazing how quickly we forget these terrible times).

Same goes for cloning...we mess with things we dont truly understand,dont believe me then maybe ask Leo Szilard