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[tidla]

Irrespective of the qualifications required to carry out this testing, it's not difficult to suspect that it's less about safety and more about arse covering.

mechanic lad down south blew himself across the workshop floor anfter the commercial tyre he was inflating from flat exploded.(twin wheel rears)

a tyre company is now the only authorized ones to inflate tyres much to the dismay of other fitters.

it should be obvious that a flat tyre/very low pressure requires a punture repair.

common sense/inexeperience??

[omegadan67]

in order to do pat testing for other people that is outside of you employment base you have to be tested to a set level to do pat testing

So nothing wrong with an employer sending the tea lady round with a PAT tester on her trolley.

AND i stress if a pat tester passes an appliance which then electrocutes someone they can be charged with industrial manslaughter if found guilty of negligence.

.. and by the same token my MOT tester, who last saw my car in January, can be charged if I have a car accident on the way home tonight? Both testing procedures, when properly carried out, prove the item is safe within a limited set of parameters at the time they are tested and not a minute after. At best all either will do is pick up persistent use of equipment with an easily detectable fault not guarantee its' safety at any point in the future.

Kevin

I doubt you would be able to do that seeing as the mot is for then and then not for a period of time.

PAT testing is done to prove the appliance is fit for purpose for a period of 12 months mot is not,

How refreshing that people still comment on things they dont know anything about, and continue to argue even though know they are wrong.

the only true statment i know is : A little information is dangerous in the wrong
hands

[derry lad]

cheers for the heads up omegadan....its definitly something il be adding to my CV in the next few weeks 

[Kevin Wood]

I doubt you would be able to do that seeing as the mot is for then and then not for a period of time.

PAT testing is done to prove the appliance is fit for purpose for a period of 12 months mot is not,

Doesn't mean it won't go faulty the day after it's tested, though. Or even that it hasn't got an intermittent fault that makes it unsafe, but which wasn't picked up the day it was tested. I can't see any difference in practical terms, I'm afraid. :-/

How refreshing that people still comment on things they dont know anything about, and continue to argue even though know they are wrong.

 :-?

the only true statment i know is : A little information is dangerous in the wrong
hands

Not sure I'd agree with that. A little information, not being afraid to ask, and a knowledge of your limits combined with a modicum of common sense are about the best tools with which to tackle life, IMHO.

Total ignorance of anything beyond one's limited field, or, on the other hand, a willingness to dabble there without understanding the possible consequences are what is dangerous.

Kevin

[omegadan67]

being 17 th edition quailified electricion and also c&g qualified to 2391-10 and 2392-10 I would just like to point out that in order to do pat testing for other people that is outside of you employment base you have to be tested to a set level to do pat testing, if you are self employed then you should be at least 2391 qualified. if you are not you could be prossecuted for breach of statory rules. if you are reported.

AND i stress if a pat tester passes an appliance which then electrocutes someone they can be charged with industrial manslaughter if found guilty of negligence.
which would not be difficult to prove if you passed the appliance and it is faulty because your name goes on the shcedule  of works attached to the distribution board.

We're talking Portable Appliances here, not fixed installs, so distribution boards and schedules of works wouldn't come into it.

[/highlight]

you still have to have a schedule of work undertaken what you have passed and what you have failed AND it is left at the premiss that you did the pat tests. Or have i been doing it wrong for the last 3 years?

The point of blame still rests with the tester/inspector? as stated in the rules and regs for such work

[Mysteryman]

I don't think PAT testing is a legal requirement, you just have to show that you took steps to make sure stuff is safe.

If you are paying less than £3 per item, its not being tested properly. Crap test equipment, person who doesn't understand what they are doing, etc, etc.

Ken

Every local authority building, schools, libraries etc. must have a valid sticker on every piece of portable equipment. Last time I got someone in, it was 99p per item. Tester did 300 in one day, but he worked for a company, so he got 30p. £90 per day is no great shakes.

[John Lewis]

Not really money for old rope, consider travelling for example from my place into Bristol centre, 53 mile round trip, to do 25 items at £1.50 per item. With the cost of £5.50 factored in for the severn bridge toll, its not a mega earner........

We just got some done, you should well be issuing a callout charge for that - everyone else seems to be round these parts! We just took them in to a spark and got it done in the end.

We got it for £1.25 per item, not too bad. It was an insurance requirement for a wedding DJ gig we're doing tomorrow. Plus he did have to inspect/repair a 30 metre cable too so it worked out good VFM given the wage packet for the gig