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Cat D
« on: 31 August 2010, 22:33:47 »

Hi guys might sound a strange question but if i buy a car that is a Cat D and apparentley repaired will i have any problems insuring it?

What standard does it need repairing too? Anything elese i need to know?

Cheers Dave :y
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Re: Cat D
« Reply #1 on: 31 August 2010, 22:35:55 »

I thought Cat D were the daft stuff kike just stolen and recovered, or the same with minor damge to a lock or window and basicaly DIY repairable.
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Re: Cat D
« Reply #2 on: 31 August 2010, 22:51:53 »

Cat A- The vehicle must be destroyed, nothing of value to salvage.
Cat B - Only for parts, not for resale or ever to be put back on the road.
Cat C - Repair is possible, but the estimated cost is more than the value of the vehicle at the time of the damage, therefore it's a total loss.
Cat D - Repair is possible, but would cost a % of the vehicle's value and not deemed economical, but can be repaired.
Cat C requires a VIC check, this is a vehicle identity check, this does not establish roadworthiness, just establishes the identity of the vehicle is correct. This is not required for Cat D.
When you look at the V5C, look at the bottom left hand corner in section 3 (Special Notes). It will always says 'Declared new at first registration' Unless it's an import. In this section it should say something like- Substanially altered or repaired if it's Cat C. Cat D doesn't usually do that. That's the acid test with the insurers, if on the V5C it doesn't mention anything like that it's normally fine.
I have had to advise a friend of this recently. It is also prudent to get an engineers report of the vehicle if your insurance query anything.
If you need any more assitance, let me know Dave  :y

EDIT: Also to add, Phil's right. Cat D is normally also given to stolen recovered, when there is no damage to the vehicle. If the insurers pay out and the vehicle is subsequently recovered, it then becomes a Cat D.
But, do please note that Cat D does devalue a vehicle regardless of any damage or not. If it's immaculate but still Cat D, it is still worth less compared to an equivalent unrecorded vehicle.
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Re: Cat D
« Reply #3 on: 31 August 2010, 23:44:19 »

I had a Cat D bmw 5 series once, had front end damage with the previous owner but was repaired properly with all genuine parts, you couldnt tell the difference nor what had been done, owned that car for about 3 yrs.

Its a good way to get a good car cheap if you intend on keeping it, but not worth buying and selling it on for profit unless its stupidly cheap.
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Re: Cat D
« Reply #4 on: 01 September 2010, 00:05:30 »

Cheers Josh some useful info there, so as long as the V5 is clear i'm all good with the insurance. Not in it to make a profit just after a new run about for the Mrs as cheap as possible and looking at it from the point of view that dealers may be more likely to want to get them off a forecourt?
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Re: Cat D
« Reply #5 on: 01 September 2010, 08:53:13 »

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Cat A- The vehicle must be destroyed, nothing of value to salvage.
Cat B - Only for parts, not for resale or ever to be put back on the road.
Cat C - Repair is possible, but the estimated cost is more than the value of the vehicle at the time of the damage, therefore it's a total loss.
Cat D - Repair is possible, but would cost a % of the vehicle's value and not deemed economical, but can be repaired.
Cat C requires a VIC check, this is a vehicle identity check, this does not establish roadworthiness, just establishes the identity of the vehicle is correct. This is not required for Cat D.
When you look at the V5C, look at the bottom left hand corner in section 3 (Special Notes). It will always says 'Declared new at first registration' Unless it's an import. In this section it should say something like- Substanially altered or repaired if it's Cat C. Cat D doesn't usually do that. That's the acid test with the insurers, if on the V5C it doesn't mention anything like that it's normally fine.
I have had to advise a friend of this recently. It is also prudent to get an engineers report of the vehicle if your insurance query anything.
If you need any more assitance, let me know Dave  :y

EDIT: Also to add, Phil's right. Cat D is normally also given to stolen recovered, when there is no damage to the vehicle. If the insurers pay out and the vehicle is subsequently recovered, it then becomes a Cat D.
But, do please note that Cat D does devalue a vehicle regardless of any damage or not. If it's immaculate but still Cat D, it is still worth less compared to an equivalent unrecorded vehicle.

the local hgv test centre also does these vic tests.

on chatting to the tester on some of the strange stuff which gets put back on the road, mention was made of a clit which had had the roof section welded in from another vehicle..this was subsequently rejected.
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Re: Cat D
« Reply #6 on: 01 September 2010, 09:52:24 »

My little Rover 25 diesel is a Cat D light panel damage. Never had any trouble insuring it and there's no mention on the V5C but don't expect to get much for it should we have a bump or sell it but then it is a Rover so aint worth much anyway ;)
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Re: Cat D
« Reply #7 on: 01 September 2010, 11:33:54 »

My wife is a cat D. I'll have to keep her forever as I can't move her on. :(
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Re: Cat D
« Reply #8 on: 01 September 2010, 11:57:08 »

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My wife is a cat D. I'll have to keep her forever as I can't move her on. :(

you must have been a cat A or B then,a burnt out wreck :D
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Re: Cat D
« Reply #9 on: 01 September 2010, 13:26:13 »

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My wife is a cat D. I'll have to keep her forever as I can't move her on. :(

you must have been a cat A or B then,a burnt out wreck :D


Yes Jon, my previous marriages have taken their toll. :(
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