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Re: Naughty Police Officers!
« Reply #1 on: 04 September 2010, 14:17:11 »

They should be suspended from DUTY until a full independant investigation has reached it's conclusion. This in their best interests as well as of the Police Service & the General Public. At the least they are guilty of TWOCing the vehicle & Criminal Damage! >:(
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Re: Naughty Police Officers!
« Reply #2 on: 04 September 2010, 15:43:24 »

One rule for us and one for them no doubt  >:(
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Re: Naughty Police Officers!
« Reply #3 on: 04 September 2010, 16:45:50 »

Appears to be rank stupidity at the very least.

I'm not sure how current regulations stand regarding officers driving vehicles in these circumstances but when I was in uniform authorised drivers could remove to a secure location (generally the local factory) any vehicle the occupants of which were deemed to have been involved in crime, or a vehicle placed in a dangerous position or at risk of theft or other damage.

These clowns will face (over and above the likelihood of criminal charges) a disciplinary hearing that could result in the sanction of career possibilities, financial penalty, dismissal and deferral of pension until age 60.

So as Proz rightly says, there is in fact one law for the public and one for the police, only in these cases, officers face double jeopardy as both criminal charges and disciplinary charges are brought (following due investigation) in the aftermath of such incidents. 
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Re: Naughty Police Officers!
« Reply #4 on: 04 September 2010, 16:50:43 »

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Appears to be rank stupidity at the very least.

I'm not sure how current regulations stand regarding officers driving vehicles in these circumstances but when I was in uniform authorised drivers could remove to a secure location (generally the local factory) any vehicle the occupants of which were deemed to have been involved in crime, or a vehicle placed in a dangerous position or at risk of theft or other damage.

These clowns will face (over and above the likelihood of criminal charges) a disciplinary hearing that could result in the sanction of career possibilities, financial penalty, dismissal and deferral of pension until age 60.

So as Proz rightly says, there is in fact one law for the public and one for the police, only in these cases, officers face double jeopardy as both criminal charges and disciplinary charges are brought in the aftermath of such incidents. 

As they should... it is their duty as officers of the law to behave in an appropriate manner.  They should know better.

Still, nobody died.
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Re: Naughty Police Officers!
« Reply #5 on: 04 September 2010, 16:56:47 »

the car should have never been driven by the officers in this specific incident, they were supposed to wait for a recovery truck

i heard all about this yesterday, the 23 year old owner was arrested over a drug-related incident
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« Reply #6 on: 04 September 2010, 16:58:45 »

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Appears to be rank stupidity at the very least.

I'm not sure how current regulations stand regarding officers driving vehicles in these circumstances but when I was in uniform authorised drivers could remove to a secure location (generally the local factory) any vehicle the occupants of which were deemed to have been involved in crime, or a vehicle placed in a dangerous position or at risk of theft or other damage.

These clowns will face (over and above the likelihood of criminal charges) a disciplinary hearing that could result in the sanction of career possibilities, financial penalty, dismissal and deferral of pension until age 60.

So as Proz rightly says, there is in fact one law for the public and one for the police, only in these cases, officers face double jeopardy as both criminal charges and disciplinary charges are brought in the aftermath of such incidents. 

As they should... it is their duty as officers of the law to behave in an appropriate manner.  They should know better.

Still, nobody died.

I quite agree R, there's no place for such stupidity the consequences of which, could have been dire.
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Re: Naughty Police Officers!
« Reply #7 on: 04 September 2010, 19:29:34 »

custordy sergeant.
"we have some bad news, and some bad news.you wont be driving for 12 months... and just to make sure your not tempted...."
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Re: Naughty Police Officers!
« Reply #8 on: 04 September 2010, 19:39:01 »

Publicly their superior has to state that there will be an in depth investigation, and the Officers will be dealt with.

But I think in few weeks, when all the dust has settled, I'm sure we'll learn that their back on duty with just a stern telling off, with no charges brought against them, and it was all just a miss-understanding (again !).  >:(
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« Reply #9 on: 04 September 2010, 19:42:40 »

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Publicly their superior has to state that there will be an in depth investigation, and the Officers will be dealt with.

But I think in few weeks, when all the dust has settled, I'm sure we'll learn that their back on duty with just a stern telling off, with no charges brought against them, and it was all just a miss-understanding (again !).  >:(

What basis have you for making that assertion Matt?
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Re: Naughty Police Officers!
« Reply #10 on: 04 September 2010, 19:53:52 »

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custordy sergeant.
"we have some bad news, and some bad news.you wont be driving for 12 months... and just to make sure your not tempted...."
HAHAHAHAHA ;D ;D    I bet the owner just giggled to himself (after crying many a tear) cos hes surely gonna get paid out from the osifers insurance........so at least he hasnt gotta worry bout sellin it..... :y
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« Reply #11 on: 04 September 2010, 19:53:54 »

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Publicly their superior has to state that there will be an in depth investigation, and the Officers will be dealt with.

But I think in few weeks, when all the dust has settled, I'm sure we'll learn that their back on duty with just a stern telling off, with no charges brought against them, and it was all just a miss-understanding (again !).  >:(

What basis have you for making that assertion Matt?

I think the outcome will not be that detrimental to the Officers, due to the fact that no-one was injured or killed, and because it was damage to someone's property that can be repaired, that compensation will be offered to the owners of the property by the Force, and if the owners agree that someone else will be paying for the repairs, that the Force will in return ask for an agreement not to proceed with action against the Officers involved.

Sorry if I sound cynical, but I've heard too many reports like this in the News, yet very few Officers seam to be thrown out of the Force for stupid acts that could of got someone injured, yet if caused by members of the public would have ended up serving jail time, or suspended jail term :-/ .
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Re: Naughty Police Officers!
« Reply #12 on: 04 September 2010, 20:04:30 »

justice aside, the only ones in the ranks who seem to get thrown out (publicly) are those that are a thorn in the side and as such are maneuvered out.much like any other business. investment/usefulness of the induvidual taken into consideration.
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« Reply #13 on: 04 September 2010, 20:57:33 »

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Publicly their superior has to state that there will be an in depth investigation, and the Officers will be dealt with.

But I think in few weeks, when all the dust has settled, I'm sure we'll learn that their back on duty with just a stern telling off, with no charges brought against them, and it was all just a miss-understanding (again !).  >:(

What basis have you for making that assertion Matt?

I think the outcome will not be that detrimental to the Officers, due to the fact that no-one was injured or killed, and because it was damage to someone's property that can be repaired, that compensation will be offered to the owners of the property by the Force, and if the owners agree that someone else will be paying for the repairs, that the Force will in return ask for an agreement not to proceed with action against the Officers involved.

Sorry if I sound cynical, but I've heard too many reports like this in the News, yet very few Officers seam to be thrown out of the Force for stupid acts that could of got someone injured, yet if caused by members of the public would have ended up serving jail time, or suspended jail term :-/ .


Thanks for fleshing that out Matt :y :y

At one time that indeed was the preferred way of dealing with such matters.  Not so much now.

The emasculation of the 'force' as a whole by a self-serving middle/upper management structure more interested in holding onto their own post and advancing further up the scale towards greater reward and an enhanced pension package, has ensured that the first order of business now is to cover one's arse.

The politicisation of the senior echelons of the service by government (the last one in particular) has ensured that many managers have become reluctant to isolate themselves by making decisions which fall outside the safety of the committee decision making process.

The net result of this is that few in the management line now stand by those they command.

Modern policing is more about budget control, accumulation of data, development of trendy ideas,  greater cooperation with foreign enforcement agencies, enforcement by proxy through a civilianised structure and electronic aids and the solidification of one's position in the overall management structure and less about providing a professional well motivated force of officers whose job it is to apprehend wrongdoers on the streets of this country.

For these reasons, and the fact that I have now given 39 years service to this nation in one capacity or another, I can say that there are more officers dismissed, required to resign, demoted, transferred, fined and blocked from further advancement within the force structure than you would imagine.


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Re: Naughty Police Officers!
« Reply #14 on: 04 September 2010, 21:06:32 »

i hope they were both breathe tested and blood  samples taken for drugs. i knew of a copper that likes a good spliff and a few lines now and then. fortunatly hes dead now though  :y
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