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[Nickbat]

who was this mystery banker? George Bailey? Maybe he thought the homeless guy was an angel waiting to get his wings?  

Only joking Albs - I'm sure there are thousands hundreds dozens a couple more examples of the caring side of bankers on our city streets 

sniff.....makes me proud that we bailed out this noble and much malignant maligned hard working section 

Without banks, you're stuffed, I'm stuffed, we're all stuffed. Live with it. 

that's exactly the kind of thinking that got us into this mess 

Have you ever thought about the consequences of global banking collapse?

I suppose you don't have a bank account and sleep atop your tenners under the mattress.  

[Banjax]

who was this mystery banker? George Bailey? Maybe he thought the homeless guy was an angel waiting to get his wings?  

Only joking Albs - I'm sure there are thousands hundreds dozens a couple more examples of the caring side of bankers on our city streets 

sniff.....makes me proud that we bailed out this noble and much malignant maligned hard working section 

Without banks, you're stuffed, I'm stuffed, we're all stuffed. Live with it. 

that's exactly the kind of thinking that got us into this mess 

Have you ever thought about the consequences of global banking collapse?

I suppose you don't have a bank account and sleep atop your tenners under the mattress.  

If you control billions upon billions of other peoples money - it's really not that difficult to make money, if you make up your own rules its even easier - like shooting fish in a barrel unless you're a complete moron so spare me the deification of the bankers, I agree, for once with the Archbishop of Canterbury calling for a moral and ethical core in business - 21st century and we still haven't figured out that profit and the bottom line isn't the be-all and end-all - I find it depressing that humans as a race have no ambition other than to chase small green pieces of paper - aren't we better? shouldn't we be helping everyone not letting half the world starve? 

what am i thinking? 

chase the money - thats the only way 

oh - and remember - avoid tax, thats only for plebs 

[Banjax]

as for bank accounts - the post office surely could run all our day to day banking needs, saving them from closure in the meantime?

building societies handle mortgages and home loans.

the bankers can play at the casinos to their hearts content.
 8-)

OK thats that solved - whats next? 

[Dishevelled Den]

If you control billions upon billions of other peoples money - it's really not that difficult to make money, if you make up your own rules its even easier - like shooting fish in a barrel unless you're a complete moron so spare me the deification of the bankers, I agree, for once with the Archbishop of Canterbury calling for a moral and ethical core in business - 21st century and we still haven't figured out that profit and the bottom line isn't the be-all and end-all - I find it depressing that humans as a race have no ambition other than to chase small green pieces of paper - aren't we better? shouldn't we be helping everyone not letting half the world starve? 

what am i thinking? 

chase the money - thats the only way 

oh - and remember - avoid tax, thats only for plebs 

shouldn't we be helping everyone not letting half the world starve?

The thing I can never accept is - invariably - there never seems to be a shortage of food available to the ruling elite (and their security apparatus) of those places you refer to. :-?

oh - and remember - avoid tax, thats only for plebs

A lesson well learnt by the legions of work-shy spongers littered about this land.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

who was this mystery banker? George Bailey? Maybe he thought the homeless guy was an angel waiting to get his wings?  

Only joking Albs - I'm sure there are thousands hundreds dozens a couple more examples of the caring side of bankers on our city streets 

sniff.....makes me proud that we bailed out this noble and much malignant maligned hard working section 

Without banks, you're stuffed, I'm stuffed, we're all stuffed. Live with it. 

that's exactly the kind of thinking that got us into this mess 

Have you ever thought about the consequences of global banking collapse?

I suppose you don't have a bank account and sleep atop your tenners under the mattress.  

If you control billions upon billions of other peoples money - it's really not that difficult to make money, if you make up your own rules its even easier - like shooting fish in a barrel unless you're a complete moron so spare me the deification of the bankers, I agree, for once with the Archbishop of Canterbury calling for a moral and ethical core in business - 21st century and we still haven't figured out that profit and the bottom line isn't the be-all and end-all - I find it depressing that humans as a race have no ambition other than to chase small green pieces of paper - aren't we better? shouldn't we be helping everyone not letting half the world starve? 

what am i thinking? 

chase the money - thats the only way 

oh - and remember - avoid tax, thats only for plebs 

I concur with BJ..

In 1997 New Labour was so keen to show the city that it was business friendly......Blair and Brown allowed the banks far too much freedom...... They trusted the banks to behave in a responsible way... the end result being that all the cooks ..... cleaners and  people on a low wage or even minimum wage are likely to have their meagre standard of living cut in order to bail out these greedy (and inept :-/) parasites. Any Government should distance itself from the banks and the city...New Labour was far too cosy with them. In the thirties FDR made a speech with words to the effect......"The banks are unanimous in their hatred for me ......and I welcome  their hatred"...(Youtube clip?)..FDR had the right idea....

[Banjax]

Zulu - I detest work-shy spongers as much as the next man, but I'll guarantee there are far more tax avoiders than benefit fraudsters costing us a hell of a lot more in lost revenue than a few million pounds worth of giros ever could 

[Banjax]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9yoZHs6PsU[/media]

glad to oblige Opti 


reminds me of the Vince Cable we want   

[albitz]

who was this mystery banker? George Bailey? Maybe he thought the homeless guy was an angel waiting to get his wings?  

Only joking Albs - I'm sure there are thousands hundreds dozens a couple more examples of the caring side of bankers on our city streets 

sniff.....makes me proud that we bailed out this noble and much malignant maligned hard working section 

My daughter.

Having read the rest of the recent posts in this thread it has been a reminder of why I try to avoid posting in threads which you and your sidekick are involved in.
You are both stupid beyond words,  I must try harder in future not to break my own rule

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23562036-banker-killed-by-thugs-paid-ultimate-price-for-trying-to-be-good-citizen.do

[Nickbat]

If you control billions upon billions of other peoples money - it's really not that difficult to make money, if you make up your own rules its even easier - like shooting fish in a barrel unless you're a complete moron so spare me the deification of the bankers, I agree, for once with the Archbishop of Canterbury calling for a moral and ethical core in business - 21st century and we still haven't figured out that profit and the bottom line isn't the be-all and end-all - I find it depressing that humans as a race have no ambition other than to chase small green pieces of paper - aren't we better? shouldn't we be helping everyone not letting half the world starve? 

what am i thinking? 

chase the money - thats the only way 

oh - and remember - avoid tax, thats only for plebs 

Ye Gods, you do have an excessively simplified view of the world. Much of the world's malnutrition is down to one thing: politics. It's all very well and good shoving money at destitute countries, but it invariably ends upon the pockets of the few. What they need, indeed what they want, is help to build their economies, to achieve higher standards of living and, most importantly, to achieve a feeling of self-worth and pride.

And the tax question is secondary, unless you want the government to take even more and fritter even more away.

You seem to forget that the rich actually provide income. If you force, in your Marxist paradise, everyone to have an equal income, there will be much less incentive. Furthermore, niche industries (of which there are many) which cater for high-earners would collapse, so that chap down the road who installs luxury swimming pools for a living would end up down the job centre. Production workers at Aston Martin would be laid off as everyone would be forced to buy the government's Banjax Mk I (available only in black).

The make-up of our society is far more complex than you seem to think and the strands of our economy are interwoven. If you pull one out, you will witness the law of unintended consequences, which could be severe.
 

[Banjax]

who was this mystery banker? George Bailey? Maybe he thought the homeless guy was an angel waiting to get his wings?  

Only joking Albs - I'm sure there are thousands hundreds dozens a couple more examples of the caring side of bankers on our city streets 

sniff.....makes me proud that we bailed out this noble and much malignant maligned hard working section 

My daughter.

Having read the rest of the recent posts in this thread it has been a reminder of why I try to avoid posting in threads which you and your sidekick are involved in.
You are both stupid beyond words,  I must try harder in future not to break my own rule

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23562036-banker-killed-by-thugs-paid-ultimate-price-for-trying-to-be-good-citizen.do

I think your daughter reflects more on you and how she was brought up than anything else - don't hide your light under a bushel, Albs

[Banjax]

If you control billions upon billions of other peoples money - it's really not that difficult to make money, if you make up your own rules its even easier - like shooting fish in a barrel unless you're a complete moron so spare me the deification of the bankers, I agree, for once with the Archbishop of Canterbury calling for a moral and ethical core in business - 21st century and we still haven't figured out that profit and the bottom line isn't the be-all and end-all - I find it depressing that humans as a race have no ambition other than to chase small green pieces of paper - aren't we better? shouldn't we be helping everyone not letting half the world starve? 

what am i thinking? 

chase the money - thats the only way 

oh - and remember - avoid tax, thats only for plebs 

Ye Gods, you do have an excessively simplified view of the world. Much of the world's malnutrition is down to one thing: politics. It's all very well and good shoving money at destitute countries, but it invariably ends upon the pockets of the few. What they need, indeed what they want, is help to build their economies, to achieve higher standards of living and, most importantly, to achieve a feeling of self-worth and pride.

And the tax question is secondary, unless you want the government to take even more and fritter even more away.

You seem to forget that the rich actually provide income. If you force, in your Marxist paradise, everyone to have an equal income, there will be much less incentive. Furthermore, niche industries (of which there are many) which cater for high-earners would collapse, so that chap down the road who installs luxury swimming pools for a living would end up down the job centre. Production workers at Aston Martin would be laid off as everyone would be forced to buy the government's Banjax Mk I (available only in black).

The make-up of our society is far more complex than you seem to think and the strands of our economy are interwoven. If you pull one out, you will witness the law of unintended consequences, which could be severe.
 

Jesus Nickbat, I have a simple view of the world and yet any slight criticism of the banks and our priorities in the west and I'm immediately daubed a loony left radical! 

If anything I'm showing you depth and nuance, money can be a great motivator , it can be used to leave lasting legacies as some of the more advanced rich are beginning to understand - free market capitilism is the best system we've got for us, but its far from perfect and it astonishes me that you think we can't do better 

[cem_devecioglu]

about the banks.. I'll simply remind that govts do not govern countries..the banks and the players of financial system.. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

who was this mystery banker? George Bailey? Maybe he thought the homeless guy was an angel waiting to get his wings?  

Only joking Albs - I'm sure there are thousands hundreds dozens a couple more examples of the caring side of bankers on our city streets 

sniff.....makes me proud that we bailed out this noble and much malignant maligned hard working section 

My daughter.

Having read the rest of the recent posts in this thread it has been a reminder of why I try to avoid posting in threads which you and your sidekick are involved in.
You are both stupid beyond words,  I must try harder in future not to break my own rule

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23562036-banker-killed-by-thugs-paid-ultimate-price-for-trying-to-be-good-citizen.do

Albs.....If your daughter has chosen to go into banking then that is entirely her prerogative......but your rather bitter posts seem to suggest that BJ and I should not be allowed  to voice a negative opinion on a small group of greedy inept bankers who......in my humble opinion.....and the opinion of many others have left this country on it's knees....Try not to take things so personally.....  

[Nickbat]

who was this mystery banker? George Bailey? Maybe he thought the homeless guy was an angel waiting to get his wings?  

Only joking Albs - I'm sure there are thousands hundreds dozens a couple more examples of the caring side of bankers on our city streets 

sniff.....makes me proud that we bailed out this noble and much malignant maligned hard working section 

My daughter.

Having read the rest of the recent posts in this thread it has been a reminder of why I try to avoid posting in threads which you and your sidekick are involved in.
You are both stupid beyond words,  I must try harder in future not to break my own rule

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23562036-banker-killed-by-thugs-paid-ultimate-price-for-trying-to-be-good-citizen.do

Albs.....If your daughter has chosen to go into banking then that is entirely her prerogative......but your rather bitter posts seem to suggest that BJ and I should not be allowed  to voice a negative opinion on a small group of greedy inept bankers who......in my humble opinion.....and the opinion of many others have left this country on it's knees....Try not to take things so personally.....  

I have never before seen the words "small group" used on these boards when bile is being launched at the banking sector. Yes, as in all societal groups, there are a few inept and dishonest individuals, but the anti-capitalists on here seem to enjoy tarring everyone with the same brush.  Furthermore, the problem the UK faces at the moment is excessive debt, which was cause by an inept and greedy socialist administration. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

who was this mystery banker? George Bailey? Maybe he thought the homeless guy was an angel waiting to get his wings?  

Only joking Albs - I'm sure there are thousands hundreds dozens a couple more examples of the caring side of bankers on our city streets 

sniff.....makes me proud that we bailed out this noble and much malignant maligned hard working section 

My daughter.

Having read the rest of the recent posts in this thread it has been a reminder of why I try to avoid posting in threads which you and your sidekick are involved in.
You are both stupid beyond words,  I must try harder in future not to break my own rule

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23562036-banker-killed-by-thugs-paid-ultimate-price-for-trying-to-be-good-citizen.do

Albs.....If your daughter has chosen to go into banking then that is entirely her prerogative......but your rather bitter posts seem to suggest that BJ and I should not be allowed  to voice a negative opinion on a small group of greedy inept bankers who......in my humble opinion.....and the opinion of many others have left this country on it's knees....Try not to take things so personally.....  

I have never before seen the words "small group" used on these boards when bile is being launched at the banking sector. Yes, as in all societal groups, there are a few inept and dishonest individuals, but the anti-capitalists on here seem to enjoy tarring everyone with the same brush.  Furthermore, the problem the UK faces at the moment is excessive debt, which was cause by an inept and greedy socialist administration. 

Hmmm yes Nick ......you seem to have fallen into the same trap as Albs......that is ....if you don't believe in totally unregulated free market capitalism( which I don't)...then you are some sort of rabid commie/marxist...who hates business and enterprise...a man who has no aspirations or imagination...For the record I own a detached house and I'm self employed....We have seen with the banks just how dangerous unfettered capitalism can be....