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[Mysteryman]

Our beloved chancellor has just withdrawn child benefit for anyone paying higher rate of income tax, saying it was a 'fair' thing to do.
So if you earn more than £44,000, you will lose it. However, if both partners works and earn, say, £40,000 and £35,000, then they can keep it. Fair?

[Varche]

Probably not. However it would be too complicated to administer . This way it is dead easy! Cuts out layers of complexity.

[Banjax]

I don't think we should encourage anyone to have kids - if you want kids, fine, but don't ask me to pay for your little snot-nosed brats 

[albitz]

Imo he should jsut say that any household with income over £20,000 doesnt get it. It was introduced to give mothers a chance of ensuring their kids didnt go without  food etc. regardless of what the husband earned or how much of it he give to the wife in housekeeping. The world is a very different place these days.
It is a start though. The welfare state imo, should largely be dismantled.
The British didnt used to be the kind of people who habitually relied on other citizens handouts to keep them. They used to have pride. The welfare state has done huge damage to the ability of self reliance that this nation was known for.

[Nickbat]

Our beloved chancellor has just withdrawn child benefit for anyone paying higher rate of income tax, saying it was a 'fair' thing to do.
So if you earn more than £44,000, you will lose it. However, if both partners works and earn, say, £40,000 and £35,000, then they can keep it. Fair?

Not really. I just read The Devil's Kitchen's take on it. Judging by the bad language, I think he strongly agrees with you!

http://www.devilskitchen.me.uk/2010/10/gideon-arsehole.html

[albitz]

I don't think we should encourage anyone to have kids - if you want kids, fine, but don't ask me to pay for your little snot-nosed brats 

How very right wing.

[Nickbat]

I don't think we should encourage anyone to have kids - if you want kids, fine, but don't ask me to pay for your little snot-nosed brats 

How very right wing.

I take it Banjax does not have children, Albs.

[Banjax]

I don't think we should encourage anyone to have kids - if you want kids, fine, but don't ask me to pay for your little snot-nosed brats 

How very right wing.

exactly 

if discouraging tattoed f-wits from rutting long enough to calculate the whole food/air deal is right wing then slap on a funny mustache and call me hitler 

[albitz]

The same logic can be applied to almost every aspect of the welfare state.

[Banjax]

I don't think we should encourage anyone to have kids - if you want kids, fine, but don't ask me to pay for your little snot-nosed brats 

How very right wing.

I take it Banjax does not have children, Albs.

thankfully 

but i do pay a shedload for everyone elses from cracker-spawn mini-criminals to the brats of the super-rich - if we're going to talk cuts lets go 

[Banjax]

The same logic can be applied to almost every aspect of the welfare state.

hmmmm - so injured servicemen shouldnt get benefits? i remember everyone getting a tad uptight about a recent story 

i dont mind paying for that guy

[aaronjb]

I don't think we should encourage anyone to have kids - if you want kids, fine, but don't ask me to pay for your little snot-nosed brats 

How very right wing.

I take it Banjax does not have children, Albs.

thankfully 

but i do pay a shedload for everyone elses from cracker-spawn mini-criminals to the brats of the super-rich - if we're going to talk cuts lets go 

I'm not going to comment on the rest.. but that sentence made me laugh out loud and get funny looks in the office 

[albitz]

The same logic can be applied to almost every aspect of the welfare state.

hmmmm - so injured servicemen shouldnt get benefits? i remember everyone getting a tad uptight about a recent story 

i dont mind paying for that guy

There are exceptions to every rule - and that is definetely one of them imo.

[Banjax]

The same logic can be applied to almost every aspect of the welfare state.

hmmmm - so injured servicemen shouldnt get benefits? i remember everyone getting a tad uptight about a recent story 

i dont mind paying for that guy

There are exceptions to every rule - and that is definetely one of them imo.

you old commie Albs 

[Dishevelled Den]

I don't think we should encourage anyone to have kids - if you want kids, fine, but don't ask me to pay for your little snot-nosed brats 

How very right wing.

exactly 

if discouraging tattoed f-wits from rutting long enough to calculate the whole food/air deal is right wing then slap on a funny mustache and call me hitler 

All right then Adolf, Im inclined to agree with you but as I don't have children (that I know of) I have to disqualify myself from further comment.