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[TheBoy]

Of course, the issue with trying to launch an auto is less options to control wheelspin, should that happen.  So again, the manual should be more consistent (with an acceptable driver)

[aaronjb]

Off the line a manual will eat an auto of similar power to weight.

At 20 and up very little in it

Maybe yours Mart

Nope - mine is sluggish up to 20 then goes well, same as every 4 speed auto I have driven.

QUite simply you can't rev up and dump clutch on an auto

You can have it in the v6 powerband before moving.  I'm not saying its good for the autobox, and boy does it stink after a few times in quick succession, but it does help the auto off the line.  Still wouldn't help it beat a manual to 60mph, or 100mph though - auto gears too long

Do you mean dropping it into gear while revving?

I suspect more 'left foot on brake, right foot on throttle, give it some until the torque converter is almost at it's stall speed, take left foot off brake, stamp on loud pedal'

(I don't recommend that if you value your transmission, mind..  )


And TB - is it just me, or is the 'traction control' quite .. poor at controlling traction? At least it seems to be in my 51 plate - it's very good at spinning the rears from a standing start, though!

[Martin_1962]

Off the line a manual will eat an auto of similar power to weight.

At 20 and up very little in it

Maybe yours Mart

Nope - mine is sluggish up to 20 then goes well, same as every 4 speed auto I have driven.

QUite simply you can't rev up and dump clutch on an auto

You can have it in the v6 powerband before moving.  I'm not saying its good for the autobox, and boy does it stink after a few times in quick succession, but it does help the auto off the line.  Still wouldn't help it beat a manual to 60mph, or 100mph though - auto gears too long

Do you mean dropping it into gear while revving?

I suspect more 'left foot on brake, right foot on throttle, give it some until the torque converter is almost at it's stall speed, take left foot off brake, stamp on loud pedal'

(I don't recommend that if you value your transmission, mind..  )


And TB - is it just me, or is the 'traction control' quite .. poor at controlling traction? At least it seems to be in my 51 plate - it's very good at spinning the rears from a standing start, though!

I hav done that a few times - helps a little, but to be honest it is when they are rolling that the V6 autos become quick.

[Vamps]

To give the Auto a fair chance, the Manual would need to have at least 20 Kilo extra load... small person, medium breed dog etc.. 

I would pitch my 2.5 Manual against 3.0 ATX any day of the week (except Sunday of course) 

A certain trainspotter Admin and I did a test on a bit of disused runway at the last York meet.

MikeDundee's 2.6 manual, modified, I believe with cams and porting, MDTM driving
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My MV6 auto, chipped and slightly ported, me driving


I can't remember what the final speed was, probably around 120(?), but there was nothing in it from the standing start until the braking point.

And against EP's MX5....... am I right in thinking only Brucie beat it.....

[24_Valve]

TB wrote:

A certain trainspotter Admin and I did a test on a bit of disused runway at the last York meet.

MikeDundee's 2.6 manual, modified, I believe with cams and porting, MDTM driving
v
My MV6 auto, chipped and slightly ported, me driving


I can't remember what the final speed was, probably around 120(?), but there was nothing in it from the standing start until the braking point.

ok, i'll put my wooden spoon away then