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[robbo2345]

My seven year old sun ( youngest in his year 7 on 3rd of Aug ) has just come home from school and told me he was starving to which i replied.... well did you eat all your dinner ? .... his reply was i didn't have any !!  :-? i cannot believe that the teacher or dinner ladies didnt make sure he had some dinner ! apparently they call register and ask the children if they want hot dinner or pack lunch and then mark it in the register then when dinner time comes along they are called through for lunch by year and the dinner ladies take them to the canteen how did he get missed ??  what do these people do   ok rant over 

[Chris_H]

Did they give him a bow and arrow?  It could be the latest curriculum!

Shame that though.

[Richie London]

my son had that problem a few weeks ago, the  machines were empty so no food, and they wouldnt let them go to the chip shop opposite the school to get something, against the rules. so they starved them instead.

[robbo2345]

i just dont understand some people would they be happy if it was thier child  :-/

[Chris_H]

I guess if he dived in the toilets at the wrong moment or was not paying attention it might be difficult for staff to know?  I can see your concern though.

[Del Boy]

my son had that problem a few weeks ago, the  machines were empty so no food, and they wouldnt let them go to the chip shop opposite the school to get something, against the rules. so they starved them instead.

My son had that before, not allowed to go to a shop literally 5 minutes away, so him and a lot of his mates used to sneak out, which in turn ended up in him getting run over trying to get back into school not getting caught, now if the cateen was cheap I'd understand the school moaning, but it's very expensive a 50p drink from Sainsburys turn into 90p there so, I had no issue with him going down the shop.

I'd go up the school and complain to be honest, no dinners for a 7 year old is a real bad show 

[Gaffers]

They have a duty of care toward your child, not providing sustinance or being complicit in the withholding of food is a breach of that.  Governance procedures should be in place to ensure this type of incident does not happen.  They will do their best to wiggle out of it by saying he didn't follow the procedure but as a seven year old he cannot be held responsible for his actions.  I would settle for nothing less than a groveling headmaster/mistress and a firm assurance that procedures had been improved 

I can draft a letter for you if you like 

(Can you tell I work in an organisation that is highly beaurocratic?  )

[Mysteryman]

They have a duty of care toward your child, not providing sustinance or being complicit in the withholding of food is a breach of that.  Governance procedures should be in place to ensure this type of incident does not happen.  They will do their best to wiggle out of it by saying he didn't follow the procedure but as a seven year old he cannot be held responsible for his actions.  I would settle for nothing less than a groveling headmaster/mistress and a firm assurance that procedures had been improved 

I can draft a letter for you if you like 

(Can you tell I work in an organisation that is highly beaurocratic?  )

I'm sure a word in the correct ear would suffice. I doubt very much if they intentionally witheld the lad's dinner.

[Gaffers]

They have a duty of care toward your child, not providing sustinance or being complicit in the withholding of food is a breach of that.  Governance procedures should be in place to ensure this type of incident does not happen.  They will do their best to wiggle out of it by saying he didn't follow the procedure but as a seven year old he cannot be held responsible for his actions.  I would settle for nothing less than a groveling headmaster/mistress and a firm assurance that procedures had been improved 

I can draft a letter for you if you like 

(Can you tell I work in an organisation that is highly beaurocratic?  )

I'm sure a word in the correct ear would suffice. I doubt very much if they intentionally witheld the lad's dinner.

Doesn't matter, governance processes have to be followed where failures occur... especially in the situation where you have a duty of care of legally vulnerable persons

[Mysteryman]

They have a duty of care toward your child, not providing sustinance or being complicit in the withholding of food is a breach of that.  Governance procedures should be in place to ensure this type of incident does not happen.  They will do their best to wiggle out of it by saying he didn't follow the procedure but as a seven year old he cannot be held responsible for his actions.  I would settle for nothing less than a groveling headmaster/mistress and a firm assurance that procedures had been improved 

I can draft a letter for you if you like 

(Can you tell I work in an organisation that is highly beaurocratic?  )

I'm sure a word in the correct ear would suffice. I doubt very much if they intentionally witheld the lad's dinner.

Doesn't matter, governance processes have to be followed where failures occur... especially in the situation where you have a duty of care of legally vulnerable persons

My wife, headteacher, would listen apologetically to the concerned father, but would use your letter as toilet paper.   rather jobsworth.

[Gaffers]

They have a duty of care toward your child, not providing sustinance or being complicit in the withholding of food is a breach of that.  Governance procedures should be in place to ensure this type of incident does not happen.  They will do their best to wiggle out of it by saying he didn't follow the procedure but as a seven year old he cannot be held responsible for his actions.  I would settle for nothing less than a groveling headmaster/mistress and a firm assurance that procedures had been improved 

I can draft a letter for you if you like 

(Can you tell I work in an organisation that is highly beaurocratic?  )

I'm sure a word in the correct ear would suffice. I doubt very much if they intentionally witheld the lad's dinner.

Doesn't matter, governance processes have to be followed where failures occur... especially in the situation where you have a duty of care of legally vulnerable persons

My wife, headteacher, would listen apologetically to the concerned father, but would use your letter as toilet paper.   rather jobsworth.

I use cheap printer paper so I expect that the knowledge of the pain that it would have caused would be fine.  But a nice apology woud have sufficed 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Yes that is not right and I certainly would go to the school and have a meeting with the Head

[Mysteryman]

They have a duty of care toward your child, not providing sustinance or being complicit in the withholding of food is a breach of that.  Governance procedures should be in place to ensure this type of incident does not happen.  They will do their best to wiggle out of it by saying he didn't follow the procedure but as a seven year old he cannot be held responsible for his actions.  I would settle for nothing less than a groveling headmaster/mistress and a firm assurance that procedures had been improved 

I can draft a letter for you if you like 

(Can you tell I work in an organisation that is highly beaurocratic?  )

I'm sure a word in the correct ear would suffice. I doubt very much if they intentionally witheld the lad's dinner.

Doesn't matter, governance processes have to be followed where failures occur... especially in the situation where you have a duty of care of legally vulnerable persons

My wife, headteacher, would listen apologetically to the concerned father, but would use your letter as toilet paper.   rather jobsworth.

I use cheap printer paper so I expect that the knowledge of the pain that it would have caused would be fine.  But a nice apology woud have sufficed 

Listen, Matt, when a parent brings a letter into school that uses phrases like 'Governance issues', do you really think that they attribute it to aforementioned parent? Or do you think that they put it down to a 'helpful' solicitors clerk, who thinks that it will get results?
The correct procedure is to talk to a member of the senior leadership team and, if it's not resolved to your satisfaction, to ask for a copy of the school's complaints procedure. Once the CP is mentioned, the situation is usually remedied pretty fast, as the procedure is very robust.

[Chris_H]

They have a duty of care toward your child, not providing sustinance or being complicit in the withholding of food is a breach of that.  Governance procedures should be in place to ensure this type of incident does not happen.  They will do their best to wiggle out of it by saying he didn't follow the procedure but as a seven year old he cannot be held responsible for his actions.  I would settle for nothing less than a groveling headmaster/mistress and a firm assurance that procedures had been improved 

I can draft a letter for you if you like 

(Can you tell I work in an organisation that is highly beaurocratic?  )

I'm sure a word in the correct ear would suffice. I doubt very much if they intentionally witheld the lad's dinner.

Doesn't matter, governance processes have to be followed where failures occur... especially in the situation where you have a duty of care of legally vulnerable persons

My wife, headteacher, would listen apologetically to the concerned father, but would use your letter as toilet paper.   rather jobsworth.

I use cheap printer paper so I expect that the knowledge of the pain that it would have caused would be fine.  But a nice apology woud have sufficed 

Listen, Matt, when a parent brings a letter into school that uses phrases like 'Governance issues', do you really think that they attribute it to aforementioned parent? Or do you think that they put it down to a 'helpful' solicitors clerk, who thinks that it will get results?
The correct procedure is to talk to a member of the senior leadership team and, if it's not resolved to your satisfaction, to ask for a copy of the school's complaints procedure. Once the CP is mentioned, the situation is usually remedied pretty fast, as the procedure is very robust.

..and it helps if your previous several attempts at communication with the school were along the lines of "well done for...." and "thank you for helping my child to..."

[Gaffers]

They have a duty of care toward your child, not providing sustinance or being complicit in the withholding of food is a breach of that.  Governance procedures should be in place to ensure this type of incident does not happen.  They will do their best to wiggle out of it by saying he didn't follow the procedure but as a seven year old he cannot be held responsible for his actions.  I would settle for nothing less than a groveling headmaster/mistress and a firm assurance that procedures had been improved 

I can draft a letter for you if you like 

(Can you tell I work in an organisation that is highly beaurocratic?  )

I'm sure a word in the correct ear would suffice. I doubt very much if they intentionally witheld the lad's dinner.

Doesn't matter, governance processes have to be followed where failures occur... especially in the situation where you have a duty of care of legally vulnerable persons

My wife, headteacher, would listen apologetically to the concerned father, but would use your letter as toilet paper.   rather jobsworth.

I use cheap printer paper so I expect that the knowledge of the pain that it would have caused would be fine.  But a nice apology woud have sufficed 

Listen, Matt, when a parent brings a letter into school that uses phrases like 'Governance issues', do you really think that they attribute it to aforementioned parent? Or do you think that they put it down to a 'helpful' solicitors clerk, who thinks that it will get results?
The correct procedure is to talk to a member of the senior leadership team and, if it's not resolved to your satisfaction, to ask for a copy of the school's complaints procedure. Once the CP is mentioned, the situation is usually remedied pretty fast, as the procedure is very robust.

..and it helps if your previous several attempts at communication with the school were along the lines of "well done for...." and "thank you for helping my child to..."

Hey, Steve, you're the expert... obviously through your good lady... but in my dealings with schools, mentioning a CP procedure was laughed at.  Mentioning local papers and failure of care of duty, poor governance, etc... that got results