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[Andy B]

But it will almost certainly slow him down and make him more aware
At the end of the day, we all speed at some point... He's now going to learn a valuable lesson that it has consequences

Exactly, a lesson learned......

It wasn't for  Mr B jnr  :-? and he even got a free bollocking of one copper when he discovered he already had 3 points.

[pscocoa]

If you get 6 points in your first two years after passing your test, you loose your licence.
And, any insurance company will hike the cost of cover by a lot with points added to a young drivers licence. Someone I know had to sell their vehicle as hardly any insurance companies would touch him, and he had 3 points.

Do you have to tell them before renewal???

You have to tell them when it happens. If any 'material facts' change you have to notify them of that. So when the 3 points are added to his licence, the insurance company need to be notified at that time.

Check policy carefully as you do not normally have to disclose prior to renewal - I had a situation recently and it was clear from policy wording that no disclosure required even for a 6 pointer.

[Vamps]

swmbo has just been talking to him, seems he may have done the same thing the following day which means another 3 points and loss of licence which means he will not get the new job and will likely lose his current short time Job.....

He owes me nearly £2k swmbo is not happy and has said he will pay every penny back, how I do not know how Looks like we will have a Saxo for sale, about £400 worth......

swmbo is seriously pissed as she used the 'F' word several times.......Kids eh  and what really annoys me is that his Dad is a director of SCS and earns mega bucks and has not contributed to any of getting him on the road.....

[Lazydocker]

Oh dear! Going to be a couple of anxious days in the Vamps household then!

About the only thing I can suggest is that he goes to court if he gets a second NIP and pleads for leniency as it will cause financial hardship. No guarantee he'll get leniency but it is his best hope  :-/

[MaxV6]

been thru this with my own kids... (of which there are 5)


only solution is to hang the little tinkers out to dry.

they just won;t learn otherwise...   


and when i say hang em out to dry.....   that includes kicking them out of they cant or wont; pay their keep...

otherwise they simply assume they can keep on just bimbling along , drinking your beer, eating you out of house and home, making a mess all over the place and costing you a fortune in assorted motoring related expenses, and never have to lift a finger to work, or contribute to the household....

they all know full well that i'll leave em to rot in jail cells if they get in trouble.... and that the same extends to traffic offenses.

[Entwood]

swmbo has just been talking to him, seems he may have done the same thing the following day which means another 3 points and loss of licence which means he will not get the new job and will likely lose his current short time Job.....

He owes me nearly £2k swmbo is not happy and has said he will pay every penny back, how I do not know how Looks like we will have a Saxo for sale, about £400 worth......

swmbo is seriously pissed as she used the 'F' word several times.......Kids eh  and what really annoys me is that his Dad is a director of SCS and earns mega bucks and has not contributed to any of getting him on the road.....

Oh dear! Going to be a couple of anxious days in the Vamps household then!

About the only thing I can suggest is that he goes to court if he gets a second NIP and pleads for leniency as it will cause financial hardship. No guarantee he'll get leniency but it is his best hope  :-/

The revocation of the driving licence is, unfortunately, automatic for a "new driver" with 6 or more points. The magistrates do NOT have the powers to over-ride this, only the Secretary of State can do this ..


http://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/docs/web_sgc_magistrates_guidelines_including_update_1__2__3_web.pdf

Page 186 paras 24, 25

More info

http://www.ukmotorists.com/Motoring/The%20Road%20Traffic%20%28New%20Drivers%29%20Act%201995.asp

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Got a letter today from Northumbria Police his car is still in my name, well you can guess....Speeding, 40mph in a 30mph in Sunderland.....

No point in having a go, I tend not to speed but we were all young once....

The stupid thing is that the particular speed camera has been there for 14 years that I know off, can be easily seen and there are ample warning signs. When I mentioned it to him he was not surprised as he saw the camera flash....

So I will have to send in his details and he will get a fine and 3 points, thing is he has only just passed his test so next time 6 points, is that it? or can he still have 6 points and then lose his licence after that? I am a bit out of touch. 

Very true......and some of us (myself)....never seem to learn however old we become...

[pscocoa]

successful speeding is an acquired skill demanding lots of common sense and the ability to avoid being a leader on a motorway at over 85 mph

[Kevin Wood]

successful speeding is an acquired skill demanding lots of common sense and the ability to avoid being a leader on a motorway at over 85 mph

  

Not to mention alertness. Those who get caught (or have a close shave) should really ask themselves if they were paying enough attention to the road, because, with a few exceptions, most instruments by which a conviction is made are not difficult to spot.

We've all done it, though.

Kevin

[Andy B]

....Those who get caught (or have a close shave) should really ask themselves if they were paying enough attention to the road, because, with a few exceptions, most instruments by which a conviction is made are not difficult to spot.

We've all done it, though.

Kevin

Depends if the van is just around a bend or whether it's a gun aimed from a small hatch in the back of a transit.

[Kevin Wood]

....Those who get caught (or have a close shave) should really ask themselves if they were paying enough attention to the road, because, with a few exceptions, most instruments by which a conviction is made are not difficult to spot.

We've all done it, though.

Kevin

Depends if the van is just around a bend or whether it's a gun aimed from a small hatch in the back of a transit.

True. Or one of Brunstrom's ones shaped like a horse's *rse in the back of a trailer.

Fancy that. Brunstrom and *rse in the same sentence.

Kevin

[Andy B]

.....
Fancy that. Brunstrom and *rse in the same sentence.

Kevin

 

[Richie London]

my points doubled so got 6 and my fine went up to £225 because i didnt reply within 28 days. and my insurance went up £315

[Vamps]

been thru this with my own kids... (of which there are 5)


only solution is to hang the little tinkers out to dry.

they just won;t learn otherwise...   


and when i say hang em out to dry.....   that includes kicking them out of they cant or wont; pay their keep...
otherwise they simply assume they can keep on just bimbling along , drinking your beer, eating you out of house and home, making a mess all over the place and costing you a fortune in assorted motoring related expenses, and never have to lift a finger to work, or contribute to the household....

they all know full well that i'll leave em to rot in jail cells if they get in trouble.... and that the same extends to traffic offenses.

I fully agree with your sentiments, the middle one should have gone years ago, been a right pain
  the difference is the boys are step-sons, a whole different ball game believe me.....

No letter today so fingers crossed, Sunderland is full of cameras but not always acively filming, though may 'flash'..........

[Vamps]

Oh dear.......Second one arrived this morning.....

Seems he will have to take his test again, including the Theory......It cost a small fortune to get him a car, insure it the first year and pay for driving lessons, work, MOT, Tax etc, and the insurance this year, he still owes me £1800.00............

We live in a small village so will make getting work much harder, fortunately he has some work with my brother a few miles away, so he could cycle or get a bus....