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[albitz]

Sell the car to pay the fines etc.

[aaronjb]

Yeah - try getting him insured next time around! They'll probably just ask for your kidney or spleen rather than give you a price..

If work is only a few miles, get him a bike and tell him to like it or lump it

Heck at 16 I lived 10 miles outside of York - used to get the bus to York, walk across town and get the next bus the next 13 miles to Pocklington every day for work.. at 15 I was cycling 10 miles each way for my first 'part time' proper job. It won't kill him

[jonnycool]

Yeah - try getting him insured next time around! They'll probably just ask for your kidney or spleen rather than give you a price..

If work is only a few miles, get him a bike and tell him to like it or lump it

Heck at 16 I lived 10 miles outside of York - used to get the bus to York, walk across town and get the next bus the next 13 miles to Pocklington every day for work.. at 15 I was cycling 10 miles each way for my first 'part time' proper job. It won't kill him

Exactly. His street cred will suffer badly though, possibly the worst and most effective punishment at his age anyway 

[aaronjb]

Yeah - try getting him insured next time around! They'll probably just ask for your kidney or spleen rather than give you a price..

If work is only a few miles, get him a bike and tell him to like it or lump it

Heck at 16 I lived 10 miles outside of York - used to get the bus to York, walk across town and get the next bus the next 13 miles to Pocklington every day for work.. at 15 I was cycling 10 miles each way for my first 'part time' proper job. It won't kill him

Exactly. His street cred will suffer badly though, possibly the worst and most effective punishment at his age anyway 

True - his mates won't be able to use him as a taxi when they want to go out anymore (Well .. that's what happened to me when I was the first in our group to pass my test & get a car!)

[Martin_1962]

Both were done before the first letter - I thought there was a get out there

[Andy B]

Oh dear.......Second one arrived this morning.....

Oh dear!

.......It cost a small fortune to get him a car, insure it the first year and pay for driving lessons, work, MOT, Tax etc, and the insurance this year, he still owes me £1800.00............ ....

We've got the very same T shirt!
We helped pay for the lessons, bought the car (birthday present) & a substantial amout towards the insurance, and our lad had as much regard for it as it appears your lad had. it does pi$$ you off! 
It's all up to him now if he want a car on the road.

[Vamps]

Oh dear.......Second one arrived this morning.....

Oh dear!

.......It cost a small fortune to get him a car, insure it the first year and pay for driving lessons, work, MOT, Tax etc, and the insurance this year, he still owes me £1800.00............ ....

We've got the very same T shirt!
We helped pay for the lessons, bought the car (birthday present) & a substantial amout towards the insurance, and our lad had as much regard for it as it appears your lad had. it does pi$$ you off! 
It's all up to him now if he want a car on the road.

Thing is Andy, this one is the nicer of the 2, if you remember previous conversations... But he has really annoyed me over this, not repaying any money simply says he has none, but is out every night, not drinking but out and about. Some issues about him coming out of education as well,    and a step son as well, so have to tread carefully with swmbo But if he looses his licence the car will be sold and there will be not more help, he is on his own.....

[Andy B]

....
and a step son as well, so have to tread carefully with swmbo  ........

could very well lead to silent meals there Mike!      Good luck!   

[Vamps]

....
and a step son as well, so have to tread carefully with swmbo  ........

could very well lead to silent meals there Mike!      Good luck!   

Andy, to be honest it could lead to more than that, I do feel that I have been well and truly screwed for some years now......

[Banjax]

give the kid a break - hes young and stupid - we all were (and sometimes still are), plus, if it slows him down a bit then its a price worth paying....theres a reason insurance companies dont like young male drivers, as someone whos had numerous points for speeding, i cant really wag my finger. i should know better - but he's learning.....and no one was hurt 

[Andy B]

give the kid a break - hes young and stupid - we all were  ......

I suspect that you have either no kids or have angelic kids where butter wouldn't melt etc etc Eventually things come to a head.  :-?

..... meanwhile in the rest of the world. 

[Vamps]

give the kid a break - hes young and stupid - we all were (and sometimes still are), plus, if it slows him down a bit then its a price worth paying....theres a reason insurance companies dont like young male drivers, as someone whos had numerous points for speeding, i cant really wag my finger. i should know better - but he's learning.....and no one was hurt 

Neither can I but that is not the point. He is a lovely Lad, not trouble at all. Yes we all live and learn, but twice in 2 days and now loses his licence and has to start all over again, and cost me thousands........

His Dad earns megabucks and would not pay anything towards getting him on the road in the first place, not Master Vamps fault but adds additional stress between swmbo and myself......

[Banjax]

give the kid a break - hes young and stupid - we all were  ......

I suspect that you have either no kids or have angelic kids where butter wouldn't melt etc etc Eventually things come to a head.  :-?

..... meanwhile in the rest of the world. 

you're right, I dont have kids 

life is good 

[aaronjb]

give the kid a break - hes young and stupid - we all were  ......

I suspect that you have either no kids or have angelic kids where butter wouldn't melt etc etc Eventually things come to a head.  :-?

..... meanwhile in the rest of the world. 

you're right, I dont have kids 

life is good 

I reckon if there was ever any chance of me having any, I'd go and have the snip first

[Martin_1962]

2 in 2 days and 1st came in post after the 2nd offence.

See a solicitor