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[Andy B]

The  .... drivers who park on the wrong side of the road and leave their headlights on, shining into the centre of the road, making it difficult sometimes to see past their car.

Again, it's due to incompetence and ignorance of the world around them.  :-?

[waspy]

There seems to be an increase in this blatant breaking of rules since the decrease of traffic cops.
I drove 230 miles today & saw one traffic car

[feeutfo]

Pete, start a thread on lorry drivers darting out into lane 2 at absolutely and deliberately the worst time for no reason what so ever (except another lorry 100 yards ahead which will take them 3 weeks to catch up never mind overtake) 

The problem is with the "limiters" not the drivers.
You'll find one going 1mph faster than the other other approach to a hill & he'll need the extra momentum to get up the hill.

Mmm not convinced, I am absolutely certain theres an ever increasing percentage that take great joy in watching darting and evasive traffic in their aftermath, sure some mis judge it, must be difficult, but on the m4 nobodys that bad a driver, nobody.

[Auto Addict]

The  .... drivers who park on the wrong side of the road and leave their headlights on, shining into the centre of the road, making it difficult sometimes to see past their car.

Again, it's due to incompetence and ignorance of the world around them.  :-?

Don't the driving schools teach them anything.

The other annoyance is cars that sit 2" from your rear bumper in traffic jams, still in gear with their foot on the clutch.

My dad taught me to drive back in the 1950's, and he always taught me 'Can you see their back wheels on the tarmac?'.

This allows a number of things, amongst which, if you are rear ended, you may not hit the car in front, also, if the car in front breaks down, you have room to maneuver around them.

[Amigo]

Pete, start a thread on lorry drivers darting out into lane 2 at absolutely and deliberately the worst time for no reason what so ever (except another lorry 100 yards ahead which will take them 3 weeks to catch up never mind overtake) 

The problem is with the "limiters" not the drivers.
You'll find one going 1mph faster than the other other approach to a hill & he'll need the extra momentum to get up the hill.

As a truck driver myself i do sympathise with car/van drivers who have to wait for us to complete a long overtake. I drive a car too so do understand. As said all limiters vary within 2 or 3 or 4 mph & we're on cruise so to sit behind a slower truck can be frustrating. I always indicate & wait for a car who'se not in a rush to flash me out. When they do i pull out & flip my indicators as a thankyou. When i've crept past, got in again & the car passes me i wave thanks out the window.
   I know some artic drivers consider thier truck a penis extension & think they rule the road but that does'nt apply to all of us...same could be said for 4x4 & BMW drivers...cyclists?

[aaronjb]

Heh, any mention of cyclists always reminds me of Monkey Dust: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0XsulDXtk

[Kevin Wood]

The thing that annoys me is, when it's dark, drivers who park on the wrong side of the road and leave their headlights on, shining into the centre of the road, making it difficult sometimes to see past their car.

Someone did that to me last night, as it happens. A marked traffic car courtesy of Hampshire Constabulary.

Kevin

[Andy B]

Pete, start a thread on lorry drivers darting out into lane 2 at absolutely and deliberately the worst time for no reason what so ever (except another lorry 100 yards ahead which will take them 3 weeks to catch up never mind overtake) 

The problem is with the "limiters" not the drivers.
You'll find one going 1mph faster than the other other approach to a hill & he'll need the extra momentum to get up the hill.

Mmm not convinced, I am absolutely certain theres an ever increasing percentage that take great joy in watching darting and evasive traffic in their aftermath, sure some mis judge it, must be difficult, but on the m4 nobodys that bad a driver, nobody.

not wishing to antagonise the HGV drivers here, I think you find it's called  ...... might has right! I've had many a wagon pull out on me just before a hill while I've been towing in the middle lane, I would have been able to complete the overtake with miles to spare had I then not been forced to view the 4r$e end of a waggon cos they decide to pull out on me at the last minute. For some reason they then get upset when you 'remonstrate' with the horn when you eventually pass after they have eventually done their overtake or realised there's not a cat in hell's chance of overtaking up a hill & so have pulled back in behind the wagon they started to overtake 5 miles ago. 
The FOUR lanes up the M62 to Yarkshire is a classic example, lanes 1, 2 & 3 are full of HGV's all overtaking each other doing 55.5 to 56.2 leaving lane 4 for those who can manage 70 up a hill.

and breathe         

[Taxi_Driver]

The  .... drivers who park on the wrong side of the road and leave their headlights on, shining into the centre of the road, making it difficult sometimes to see past their car.

Again, it's due to incompetence and ignorance of the world around them.  :-?

Don't the driving schools teach them anything.

The other annoyance is cars that sit 2" from your rear bumper in traffic jams, still in gear with their foot on the clutch.

My dad taught me to drive back in the 1950's, and he always taught me 'Can you see their back wheels on the tarmac?'.

This allows a number of things, amongst which, if you are rear ended, you may not hit the car in front, also, if the car in front breaks down, you have room to maneuver around them.

i just shunt them out of the way 

[Andy B]

The thing that annoys me is, when it's dark, drivers who park on the wrong side of the road and leave their headlights on, shining into the centre of the road, making it difficult sometimes to see past their car.

Someone did that to me last night, as it happens. A marked traffic car courtesy of Hampshire Constabulary.

Kevin

At least it had lights on, I'd too 'flash' a copper recently to remind her to turn the bloody things on!  :-? :-? :-?

[Dishevelled Den]

Heh, any mention of cyclists always reminds me of Monkey Dust: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0XsulDXtk

  Splendid. 

[feeutfo]

So what happened to the bit about...iirc....no manoeuvre should cause other road users to swerve or deviate in speed or course? ESP re truck drivers? Oh something is in my way, I'll just inconvenience or cause a near miss to 15 car drivers rather than take a foot off the throttle for 2 milli seconds...

....and another thing    .  How is it, no matter what time of night, no matter how remote a part of the country, if there is a slip road exit coming up, there is always always always 3 lorries in convoy blocking the exit and I have to slow down to 54 and wait? How do they do it? There could be nothing else on the road for the last 10miles, but as soon as I want to come off, 3bloody great artics...

[aaronjb]

So what happened to the bit about...iirc....no manoeuvre should cause other road users to swerve or deviate in speed or course? ESP re truck drivers? Oh something is in my way, I'll just inconvenience or cause a near miss to 15 car drivers rather than take a foot off the throttle for 2 milli seconds...

....and another thing    .  How is it, no matter what time of night, no matter how remote a part of the country, if there is a slip road exit coming up, there is always always always 3 lorries in convoy blocking the exit and I have to slow down to 54 and wait? How do they do it? There could be nothing else on the road for the last 10miles, but as soon as I want to come off, 3bloody great artics...

 

You've got it all wrong, Chris - you speed up and slice past the cab of the first truck*...


(*I'm not really suggesting this, before I get lynched by the resident rolling road blockstruckers)

[Psychoca]

The  .... drivers who park on the wrong side of the road and leave their headlights on, shining into the centre of the road, making it difficult sometimes to see past their car.

Again, it's due to incompetence and ignorance of the world around them.  :-?

Don't the driving schools teach them anything.

The other annoyance is cars that sit 2" from your rear bumper in traffic jams, still in gear with their foot on the clutch.

My dad taught me to drive back in the 1950's, and he always taught me 'Can you see their back wheels on the tarmac?'.

This allows a number of things, amongst which, if you are rear ended, you may not hit the car in front, also, if the car in front breaks down, you have room to maneuver around them.

I was taught that too, by my Driving Instructor in the 90's...

[Varche]

I've only just read this thread as I suspected it would mostly be full of what it was. I wasn't disappointed. So many issues.

I always said that folk who just drove cars ought to be made to drive a juggernaut, tractor, ride a motor/bike and and horse before being let loose on the roads.. Course it won't happen.

Most of the issues raised arise from two things.

1. Britain is a dog eat dog place where people haven't got a minute to spare and everyone feels they are the most important thing on the crowded road. You aren't.

2. Unfortunately people have become for whatever reason blind to the needs of others. For example a 70 year old man going home from visiting his sick mother inhospital has different needs from a 25 year old full of testosterone needing to get back home and change before going out on the pull/razz.

Going back to some practicalities. Juggernauts are limited to their speed but on a schedule from head office. So what if they pull out at 56 mph to overtake another juggernaut limited to 50 mph. You wait a few minutes then accelerate on. Your journey time is hardly hindered but theres would be.

Sadly there will always be bad driving. Folk happy to bumble on at 40 in a convoy nose to tale making ity impossible to overtake. They should leave a reasonable distance. Folk who when being overtaken leave their lights on dipped instead of main beam to help the overtaker. Folk who feel threatened by some lunatic who has been on his boot lid trying to get past for the last 3 miles with dodgy headlights or worse auxilliary lights too.

There I have said it an argument for the sitting at 40 man (or woman).

Oh and by the way since living here I have had to accept that you often get stuck behind vehicles travelling at 20 mph on open roads. I suspect they think they ar still riding a mule!!