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Morris Vedette engine
« on: 22 November 2010, 18:42:51 »

Does anyone on here know muh about the morris vedette engine?  characterists, size, weight, hp etc

i am looking to put one in my boat but unable to find anything to confirm whether it is suitable.

TIA  :y
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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #1 on: 22 November 2010, 18:45:35 »

It's basically the sidevalve engine from the Morris 8, have a read of this...

http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27476
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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #2 on: 22 November 2010, 19:26:28 »

wont the v6 fit? ::)
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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #3 on: 22 November 2010, 19:29:30 »

Can't help with the question I'm afraid but curious on your choice of engine, are you thinking of running it through an out drive or straight through?
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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #4 on: 22 November 2010, 19:40:15 »

I dont think sailboats have the correct hullshape to get on the plain with a V6  ;D ;D

I am looking for a very small compact marine engine that will push out 5-12 hp with a gearbox (prob 2:1) forward, neutral and reverse.  Would like electric start and a big enough alternator to charge 3 leisure batteries

Oh and it's gotta be cheap!  ;D ;D
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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #5 on: 22 November 2010, 19:42:53 »

Plenty of 850cc A series engines about, ideal power range and a good high output alternator will charge the leisure batteries
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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #6 on: 22 November 2010, 19:48:39 »

A friend of mine had a Loftus Bennett in which he fitted a Reliant Robin engine compleat with gearbox rigged straight through to the prop, It pushed it along nicely especially with four foward gears unusual set up for a boat that more commonly has one forward and one reverse
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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #7 on: 22 November 2010, 19:56:29 »

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... in which he fitted a Reliant Robin engine  ......

I was thinking along the same lines, the Reliant 850 is all ally & so is relatively light. It's not exactly powerful though, 37/38 bhp  I think.  ;) ;)
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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #8 on: 22 November 2010, 20:18:18 »

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... in which he fitted a Reliant Robin engine  ......

I was thinking along the same lines, the Reliant 850 is all ally & so is relatively light. It's not exactly powerful though, 37/38 bhp  I think.  ;) ;)

Still bigger and more powerful than I need.  the gap i need to fit it in is 14" wide x 16" high  :y
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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #9 on: 22 November 2010, 20:38:03 »

Thought about a Chinese Yanmar diesel engine clone?

e.g: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YANMAR-TYPE-ENGINE-UD178-DIESEL-NEW-BARGAIN-PRICE-/260693256592?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item3cb2876990

Available from 4 up to about 10 BHP.
The electric start models have an alternator built into the flywheel.
Max RPM is 3600.
I believe you can get a model with power take-off from the camshaft so 1/2 speed.
I guess you'd have no reverse though. :-/

Lots of generators with these style engines come up on ebay so you could probably wait for one with fried electrics and get the engine relatively cheap.

I bought a knackered one 'cos I fancied a project a couple of years back (got a project too - it had been run without oil). Anyway, it did a 24 hour radio contest on about 6 or 7 litres of diesel so pretty frugal.

Not quiet, mind. You'd want to box it in on a boat if you want to be able to hear yourself think. ;D

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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #10 on: 22 November 2010, 20:58:28 »

Have thought about that but when you figure the costs of adapting the gearbox (reverse is essential) then it is cheaper to get a real yanmar  :'(
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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #11 on: 22 November 2010, 23:05:04 »

Depending on the year the Vedette was largely the same as the equivalent capacity Morris road engine.  So, depending on which version you're looking at you can get the details for the car one and you'll be on the right lines.

There's one on eBay right now by the way currently at small change price.

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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #12 on: 23 November 2010, 00:08:05 »

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There's one on eBay right now by the way currently at small change price.


That is certainly A-series based. Loops like an A-series with a water cooled exhaust manifold.

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I did take the head off to inspect the condition of the bores which are very good with minimal wear.

Why does that always ring alarm bells? Still, it's only an A series..

It's going to weigh a fair bit, though.

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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #13 on: 23 November 2010, 05:45:42 »

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There's one on eBay right now by the way currently at small change price.


That is certainly A-series based. Loops like an A-series with a water cooled exhaust manifold.

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I did take the head off to inspect the condition of the bores which are very good with minimal wear.

Why does that always ring alarm bells? Still, it's only an A series..

It's going to weigh a fair bit, though.

Kevin

yes thats the one i was looking at, and one has to ask what prompted him to take the heads off? and why not put it back on?  :-?

What is so basic about an A series?
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Re: Morris Vedette engine
« Reply #14 on: 23 November 2010, 09:46:30 »

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There's one on eBay right now by the way currently at small change price.


That is certainly A-series based. Loops like an A-series with a water cooled exhaust manifold.

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I did take the head off to inspect the condition of the bores which are very good with minimal wear.

Why does that always ring alarm bells? Still, it's only an A series..

It's going to weigh a fair bit, though.

Kevin

yes thats the one i was looking at, and one has to ask what prompted him to take the heads off? and why not put it back on?  :-?

What is so basic about an A series?

It was designed in 347BC, when engines were simpler things.. ;D

Really though it just just 'old technology' that makes it simple AFAIK - large clearances, single carb, two valves per cylinder etc.
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