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Author Topic: trouble on the 38th Parallel world....again  (Read 4146 times)

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Lizzie_Zoom

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« Reply #45 on: 23 November 2010, 22:05:03 »

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Read Nevil Shute's book   "On The Beach" .......

You will realise the futility of any form of "life expectancy" after a nuclear world war ...


Indeed Entwood, and made into the famous film of the same name.  It sent shivers down my spine when I first saw it as a child!! :o :o :o

The last part of the film showing the characters in the film preparing for the inevitable, with a boy friend commander of an American submarine going back to death in their home country:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upg2eqNbF3w[/media]

 :'( :'( :'(
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« Reply #46 on: 23 November 2010, 22:09:25 »

apart from nuclear bombing locations,  the wind carries the nuclear ashes with clouds.. so you musnt be on the pathway..

I hope and wish this scenario never happen..
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« Reply #47 on: 23 November 2010, 22:09:39 »

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Read Nevil Shute's book   "On The Beach" .......

You will realise the futility of any form of "life expectancy" after a nuclear world war ...

Indeed, a world of politicians, senior civil servants, royals, oligarchs, nuclear defence operatives and heavily-bearded men from Montana........oh, and lots of cockroaches, all to begin a brave new world together. ::)

....although cockroaches might enjoy a better reputation than many of the other 'survivors'. ;D
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Re: trouble on the 38th Parallel world....again
« Reply #48 on: 23 November 2010, 22:12:35 »

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apart from nuclear bombing locations,  the wind carries the nuclear ashes with clouds.. so you musnt be on the pathway..

I hope and wish this scenario never happen..

Yes, what a terrible situation we have where some of the best minds/the most money/most time and effort goes into creating weapons, never mind weapons like these. What terrible things nuclear bombs are, what anti-human would create these?
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« Reply #49 on: 23 November 2010, 22:18:03 »

logically , a zone covered with nuclear radiation would be useless some hundred years or more.. and if the winner survives , the environment would be extremely hazardous for long long years.. and you cant eat any vegetation or animal from that area..

I hope people think that before pushing the button..
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« Reply #50 on: 23 November 2010, 22:22:53 »

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logically , a zone covered with nuclear radiation would be useless some hundred years or more.. and if the winner survives , the environment would be extremely hazardous for long long years.. and you cant eat any vegetation or animal from that area..

I hope people think that before pushing the button..


There can be no winner Cem................. :'( :'(
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« Reply #51 on: 23 November 2010, 22:23:35 »

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apart from nuclear bombing locations,  the wind carries the nuclear ashes with clouds.. so you musnt be on the pathway..

I hope and wish this scenario never happen..

Yes, what a terrible situation we have where some of the best minds/the most money/most time and effort goes into creating weapons, never mind weapons like these. What terrible things nuclear bombs are, what anti-human would create these?

The kind who'd say this:

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My part in producing the atomic bomb consisted in a single act: I signed a letter to President Roosevelt, pressing the need for experiments on a larger scale in order to explore the possibilities for the production of an atomic bomb.
I was fully aware of the terrible danger to mankind in case this attempts succeeded. But the likelihood that the Germans were working on the same problem with a chance of succeeding forced me to this step. I could do nothing else although I have always been a convinced pacifist. To my mind, to kill in war is not a whit better than to commit ordinary murder. (Albert Einstein, 1952)

(I know, I'm reaching a bit, considering he didn't actually help design them.. ;))
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« Reply #52 on: 23 November 2010, 22:25:42 »

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logically , a zone covered with nuclear radiation would be useless some hundred years or more.. and if the winner survives , the environment would be extremely hazardous for long long years.. and you cant eat any vegetation or animal from that area..

I hope people think that before pushing the button..


There can be no winner Cem................. :'( :'(

exactly .. :(

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Re: trouble on the 38th Parallel world....again
« Reply #53 on: 23 November 2010, 22:30:14 »

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I remember the Cold War years and the following is just a piece from a drama documentary shown by the BBC in 1983 that demonstrated what would happen on the day the bomb(s) dropped on the UK.  At the time it was very real and frightening, and the second half of this documentary demonstrated frighteningly how in the following days / weeks / months it was best not to survive the initial blasts!

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcB0Ci6OGmM[/media]

It is still chilling in the extreme!! :o :o :o

I remember this well, quite chilling to watch, I have it on VHS somewhere...there was also another one, based, I think in America, I remember the scenes of hospitals being overwhelmed, not sure I can remember what it was called :( 
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Re: trouble on the 38th Parallel world....again
« Reply #54 on: 23 November 2010, 22:30:17 »

I suppose on the plus side, if we didn't all die we could turn green, become 100 ft tall, glow in the dark and become mutants and do mutant stuff, cool!

Bagsy wolverine!
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« Reply #55 on: 23 November 2010, 22:38:21 »

You can have wolverine, he's really not my type ;)

And to try and lighten the mood a little from all this gloom & certain doom:

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« Reply #56 on: 23 November 2010, 22:42:43 »

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY[/media]


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gb0mxcpPOU&feature=related[/media]
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« Reply #57 on: 23 November 2010, 22:47:52 »

Nuclear weapons are a paradox.

On the one hand they are the most useless weapons of all, since wars are usually fought for control of land/economy/populace, each of which would seriously damaged, if not wiped out altogether in the event they were used. It is arguably this scenario which has prevented their use since WW2. I believe also that this is the viewpoint of most advanced/democratic nations. It could be argued, therefore, that nuclear weapons are weapons of peace, since the existence of "mutual assured destruction" (MAD) keeps an effective lid on hostilities. 

On the other hand, though, they are excellent weapons of terror and if a nation's powerbase is threatened, with no hope winning either a fight war or, domestically, a political battle, there could be some who would use it as a suicidal act of defiance. Such countries might be identified among the dwindling number of rogue states and, of course, terrorists, for both of which groups the future is of little relevance and a "glorious" death is honourable.

One hopes that the latter group are squashed or overthrown, for they are the dangerous ones.

Nuclear weapons are then, paradoxically, both the best peace enforcers and the most dangerous weapons ever. However, they exist. The genie is out of the bottle and no nuclear-capable nation would agree to surrendering them whilst there are those who can make them and use them. Even if all the countries of the world agreed to scrap them, what guarantee would there be that someone, somewhere, would be secretly building them? None.

That's why, sadly, we have to keep our deterrent, despite the cost.   
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Re: trouble on the 38th Parallel world....again
« Reply #58 on: 23 November 2010, 22:51:57 »

OK can we stop with the end of the world stuff or I will bring back the bus thread..... :( :( :(

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Re: trouble on the 38th Parallel world....again
« Reply #59 on: 23 November 2010, 22:53:10 »

Agreed Nickbat, we are in this situation now there is no getting out of it. I'd like to think if our great nation was attacked with nuclear weapons that we'd counter attack to assure the M.A.D. of our enemies. Hahahahahahahaha
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