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[Baron Von Spongebob]

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[Auto Addict]

Amazing

[STMO123]

Martin would love that.

[Bo Bo]

Wow....

[Ronald_McBurger]

I had one of these as one of my early cars. It was a 1972 car on a J-reg. Had 12k from new and drove superbly. Great old car.

This one has got to be heading for a show or something. You just wouldn't want to drive it now would you?

[Martin_1962]

Museum job, or suitable as a shell donor for a Tiger.

I bet a Tiger would be over £5000 by now!

If I had it it would need a new engine, the smaller 4s are rubbish, the 1500/1600 are 10x better!

[Kevin Wood]

Ahh, Avenger Tiger.  

A mate of mine had one of them when I was younger. He replaced the Stromberg carbs with twin 40 Dellortos and boy did it bark! Lovely set of wheels. Not seen one of them for a while...

It's a bit of a shame they've been starting that given that it's not been driven. I bet the engine internals aren't in such good shape. Would have been best to mothball the engine completely.

Kevin

[Craig_R]

I bet the owner was Gutted when it got scratched.

How much do you think this will finally sell for ?

And I wonder how much one of these was new

[Martin_1962]

Ahh, Avenger Tiger.  

A mate of mine had one of them when I was younger. He replaced the Stromberg carbs with twin 40 Dellortos and boy did it bark! Lovely set of wheels. Not seen one of them for a while...

It's a bit of a shame they've been starting that given that it's not been driven. I bet the engine internals aren't in such good shape. Would have been best to mothball the engine completely.

Kevin

Well the 1248 engine is a bit crap anyway, the smaller 4s seem a lot more fragile than the bigger 4s, and the bigger 4s are VERY tunable, just a cam and rejet will raise the GLS 1.6 to over 100bhp from 80bhp, TIs will go to around 120bhp with little work, the GL 69bhp engine is more work as it has single valve springs and smaller carb, both need fixing as it valve bounces BEFORE the red line

[Martin_1962]

I reckon no more than £4000 as it is a bottom end model, I would estimate if in similar condition and mileage

1.6 GLS - £5000
Tiger £6000
Lotus Sunbeam £10000

But these would be a lot more driveable, the bigger engines are so much better

[Martin_1962]

Just seen 1970 therefore very early so easy £5000 and straight to a museum or collector.

Oh for a late 1.6 GLS Estate in similar condition

[Martin_1962]

Same speedo as my mums old estate - I had that off the clock!!!!

[x25xe]

Very nice indeed.  If only I had the time, and the space.  Oh yes and the cash!

The Avenger was a rushed model by Rootes who were, at that time, suffering due to the Imp.  There was a project called Apex which was a larger version of the IMP.  This was scrapped due to the IMP's issues and the Avenger or "B car" as it was known was born.  Years later, a derivative was produced, the Chrysler Sunbeam.

The Imp was not a bad car, just too advanced for the general motoring public of the day.  A lot of the cooling and head gasket issues were caused by the lack of antifreeze in the coolant.  Even the dealers did not understand the engine properly!  The engine was in fact based on an outboard motor engine, the Coventry Climax.

A somewhat useless fact, but I think I am correct in saying that the Avenger was the first production car to feature a balanced Exhaust Manifold!

It is such a shame that Rootes ended up in turmoil - caused no doubt by the relentless strikes of the day.  I often wonder what they would be turning out now if they were still in business.

For those on here who are fans of / interested in Rootes' products, there is an excellent book called "Cars of the Rootes Group" and another called "The Rootes Brothers".  Fascinating reads both of them.

[Martin_1962]

Coventry Climax is related to a racing engine and was also a water pump engine for the fire brigade

[royston1945]

I can't believe that somebody thought that laying up a 1300 Avenger would be a good investment. :-?
Of all cars he could have picked ,this must rate as the worst choice possible.Why not lay up a Cooper S, a TR6, Lotus Elan or anything else that was ultra desirable in its day?
Its not as though it's been stored properly and money will have to be spent to re-commision it.What about registration?Will it have to comply with the latest euro standards to be registered as new or will it end up on a Q plate?
Also ,the moment the new owner uses it on the road the uniqueness of the thing is destroyed and it becomes just another low mileage 'timewarp' old car and worth no more than any other well kept mainstream family runabout of the same era which is a fraction of  this car's probable selling price.