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Wiki leaks. A leak too far or it is needed?
« on: 29 November 2010, 09:36:34 »

What do you think then?

Are the Wiki leaks people compromising the very fabric of the modern world by letting us all know what is being written in secret?

Or is it for the better as from now on people had better be more careful what they write?

Or it won't change anything!! ;D ;D
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Re: Wiki leaks. A leak too far or it is needed?
« Reply #1 on: 29 November 2010, 09:38:10 »

well someone must of given it to wikileaks, if they didnt want them published they should of shredded them. problem solved
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Re: Wiki leaks. A leak too far or it is needed?
« Reply #2 on: 29 November 2010, 09:39:30 »

I thought that The Guardian were going to be publishing them anyway?

But everyone is picking on wikileaks.  They are just another form of media, albeit specialised.  Could you imagine the Daily Mail refusing to print them in the name of National Security?  Thought not :P


Whether they should be published is another matter.  But any media would publish them.
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Re: Wiki leaks. A leak too far or it is needed?
« Reply #3 on: 29 November 2010, 09:46:22 »

I for one would really like to know what the states really thinks about the rest of us.

I have said for a couple of years now that the states is probably the most dangerous country in the world. It appears to be the typical spoilt child, 'if you wont give it to me I will take it' attitude.
It's support of israel without question, it's state sponsored terrorism, etc.

americans frighten me  >:( and remember 70 years or so ago they had no interest outside there own borders, how things change  ::)
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Re: Wiki leaks. A leak too far or it is needed?
« Reply #4 on: 29 November 2010, 10:20:07 »

 No it's a bad idea in my view. Some thoughts on international diplomacy are better restricted.

This form of crusading revelation by WikiLeaks is ill-advised and will possibly lead to the deterioration in international relations between some countries just at a time when it's not needed.

There have been attacks on some people in Iran already although some more details need to be known before suggesting that these leaks were partly responsible.
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Re: Wiki leaks. A leak too far or it is needed?
« Reply #5 on: 29 November 2010, 10:52:31 »

However it will give the reast of the world some ammunition to handle relations with the US
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« Reply #6 on: 29 November 2010, 11:03:23 »

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It's support of israel without question, it's state sponsored terrorism, etc.

So do 'we', don't we? I mean, it was us and the US who created Israel, no?

On the subject of Wikileaks, though.. apparently they had this to say about Burlusconi:
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American diplomats, who interacted with him during their postings in Rome, describe Berlusconi as a "breakless, vain, and ineffective" leader in modern Europe.

According to my Italian colleague, they're spot on with their assessment ;D
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Re: Wiki leaks. A leak too far or it is needed?
« Reply #7 on: 29 November 2010, 11:22:46 »

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It's support of israel without question, it's state sponsored terrorism, etc.

So do 'we', don't we? I mean, it was us and the US who created Israel, no?On the subject of Wikileaks, though.. apparently they had this to say about Burlusconi:
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American diplomats, who interacted with him during their postings in Rome, describe Berlusconi as a "breakless, vain, and ineffective" leader in modern Europe.

According to my Italian colleague, they're spot on with their assessment ;D


Agreed, however that was many many years ago. I refer to more recent times. I cannot for the life of me think of any state terrorism that the UK is involved in (but please correct me if there is). By state terrorism in the states I refer mainly to there open support of the IRA in the past.
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Re: Wiki leaks. A leak too far or it is needed?
« Reply #8 on: 29 November 2010, 11:36:45 »

Stupid misguided moronic so called Irish Americans(mainly in the NYC and Boston areas) provided much of the funding for the IRA. Unprincipled opportunist politicians who relied on the Votes of such people also voiced their support, but the U.S. state never sponsored the IRA. ;)
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« Reply #9 on: 29 November 2010, 11:40:28 »

It was interesting to learn that the Saudis (and other leaders in the region) have been imploring the U.S. to bomb Iran.
That could cause a few red faces to say the least.
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Re: Wiki leaks. A leak too far or it is needed?
« Reply #10 on: 29 November 2010, 12:33:25 »

top points goes to wikileaks and owner.. :y :y :y :y :y

related to my country not something new as I have other sources..

however good to see another foreign source verify them..

and as usual thieving ba*st*rds are on the job with many scumbags in help..  >:( >:(

and people.. I hope "if" god is there , save their souls  :(

amen.. ;D
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« Reply #11 on: 29 November 2010, 12:38:54 »

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No it's a bad idea in my view. Some thoughts on international diplomacy are better restricted.

This form of crusading revelation by WikiLeaks is ill-advised and will possibly lead to the deterioration in international relations between some countries just at a time when it's not needed.

There have been attacks on some people in Iran already although some more details need to be known before suggesting that these leaks were partly responsible.

Zulu,

where everyone is digging others grave ;D ;D I think talking about "deterioration of international relations " not necessary ;D :y
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« Reply #12 on: 29 November 2010, 12:41:57 »

and south korea offer bribe to china  ;D ;D ;D

ah, capitalism :D ;D

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« Reply #13 on: 29 November 2010, 12:48:01 »

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No it's a bad idea in my view. Some thoughts on international diplomacy are better restricted.

This form of crusading revelation by WikiLeaks is ill-advised and will possibly lead to the deterioration in international relations between some countries just at a time when it's not needed.

There have been attacks on some people in Iran already although some more details need to be known before suggesting that these leaks were partly responsible.


I agree with you Zulu. Of course, everyone will have a field day because it concerns US documents. I wonder what the response would be if they were documents leaked from other countries? These are confidential documents and there is no doubt that there will always be some documents that need to be kept secret. On a different level, but essentially in a similar vein, would anyone here like to have their private opinions of their colleagues freely aired to all and sundry?

No, I thought not.   ::)
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« Reply #14 on: 29 November 2010, 12:51:00 »

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No it's a bad idea in my view. Some thoughts on international diplomacy are better restricted.

This form of crusading revelation by WikiLeaks is ill-advised and will possibly lead to the deterioration in international relations between some countries just at a time when it's not needed.

There have been attacks on some people in Iran already although some more details need to be known before suggesting that these leaks were partly responsible.


I agree with you Zulu. Of course, everyone will have a field day because it concerns US documents. I wonder what the response would be if they were documents leaked from other countries? These are confidential documents and there is no doubt that there will always be some documents that need to be kept secret. On a different level, but essentially in a similar vein, would anyone here like to have their private opinions of their colleagues freely aired to all and sundry?

No, I thought not.   ::)


there is a saying in my language,
"something known by two, is never a secret"   ;D :y

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