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Re: Tell us what you really think Nigel!
« Reply #15 on: 04 December 2010, 09:26:03 »

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Please stop giving Farage the oxygen of publicity, in fact stop giving him oxygen at all


He certainly isn't my favourite orator PF but he has a message that must be heard.

So had Hitler - are you advocating that his messages had to be heard?


Why do you make the comparison PF?
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Re: Tell us what you really think Nigel!
« Reply #16 on: 04 December 2010, 12:30:15 »

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Please stop giving Farage the oxygen of publicity, in fact stop giving him oxygen at all


He certainly isn't my favourite orator PF but he has a message that must be heard.

So had Hitler - are you advocating that his messages had to be heard?


Why do you make the comparison PF?
Because his messages were also valid to the majority of the audiences to whom they were addressed, therefore they (messages) too 'had to be heard'
A difference is, that despite the content he was an outstanding orator which is not the case with Farage
Extremism of all shades is to be abhored in my view whether political, religious or any other
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Re: Tell us what you really think Nigel!
« Reply #17 on: 04 December 2010, 12:34:22 »

Farage is hardly an extremist. his views differ from the mainstream parties, but I suspect that if there were a referendum on leaving the EU, the majority of the electorate would agree with his view.
Comparing him with Hitler, in any way is ridiculous imo.
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Re: Tell us what you really think Nigel!
« Reply #18 on: 04 December 2010, 13:24:02 »

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Farage is hardly an extremist. his views differ from the mainstream parties, but I suspect that if there were a referendum on leaving the EU, the majority of the electorate would agree with his view.
Comparing him with Hitler, in any way is ridiculous imo.


Agreed.
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Re: Tell us what you really think Nigel!
« Reply #19 on: 04 December 2010, 14:42:49 »

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Because his messages were also valid to the majority of the audiences to whom they were addressed, therefore they (messages) too 'had to be heard'

A difference is, that despite the content he was an outstanding orator which is not the case with Farage

Extremism of all shades is to be abhored in my view whether political, religious or any other

In the overall sense Hitler’s message had to be heard - in no mean part because of the fear and intimidation that was also evident during a time of great upheaval, not necessarily because his assertions held any great validity to the well-being of the nation.

Tied to the national trait of generally doing what one's told by falling into line behind a strong leadership then perhaps Hitler was playing to an audience of ‘willing’ listeners many of whom had to hear his message as it was the only one to be heard.

I don't really think that the general thrust of the message being disseminated by Farage can be described as extremist at all - especially when compared to those contained within Hitler's oratory.
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Re: Tell us what you really think Nigel!
« Reply #20 on: 04 December 2010, 14:54:11 »

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Because his messages were also valid to the majority of the audiences to whom they were addressed, therefore they (messages) too 'had to be heard'

A difference is, that despite the content he was an outstanding orator which is not the case with Farage

Extremism of all shades is to be abhored in my view whether political, religious or any other

In the overall sense Hitler’s message had to be heard - in no mean part because of the fear and intimidation that was also evident during a time of great upheaval, not necessarily because his assertions held any great validity to the well-being of the nation.

Tied to the national trait of generally doing what one's told by falling into line behind a strong leadership then perhaps Hitler was playing to an audience of ‘willing’ listeners many of whom had to hear his message as it was the only one to be heard.

I don't really think that the general thrust of the message being disseminated by Farage can be described as extremist at all - especially when compared to those contained within Hitler's oratory.


The only link between Hitler and Farage Zulu is that both are preaching that their country's folk / people are suffering from a great injustice.

With Hitler he meant from the Versailles Treaty, the German political elite, Jews and communists. 

With Farage it is from the EU, its political elite, its Eurocrats, its financiers, and the people of Europe.

 ;) ;)
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Re: Tell us what you really think Nigel!
« Reply #21 on: 04 December 2010, 15:01:49 »

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The only link between Hitler and Farage Zulu is that both are preaching that their country's folk / people are suffering from a great injustice.

With Hitler he meant from the Versailles Treaty, the German political elite, Jews and communists. 

With Farage it is from the EU, its political elite, its Eurocrats, its financiers, and the people of Europe.

 ;) ;)

Farage uses a style of oratory which I don't really fancy but can he, through the general thrust of his messages, be labelled an extremist - in the vein of Adolph Hitler - as PF seems to be suggesting?
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« Reply #22 on: 04 December 2010, 15:07:09 »

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The only link between Hitler and Farage Zulu is that both are preaching that their country's folk / people are suffering from a great injustice.

With Hitler he meant from the Versailles Treaty, the German political elite, Jews and communists. 

With Farage it is from the EU, its political elite, its Eurocrats, its financiers, and the people of Europe.

 ;) ;)

Farage uses a style of oratory which I don't really fancy but can he, through the general thrust of his messages, be labelled an extremist - in the vein of Adolph Hitler - as PF seems to be suggesting?

The plain answer to that Zulu  is "NO"!

Farage does not have the "advantage" of SA thugs and general Nazi Party activists to 'enforce' his point of view, so cannot be placed in the same league. ;) ;)
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Re: Tell us what you really think Nigel!
« Reply #23 on: 04 December 2010, 15:08:19 »

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The only link between Hitler and Farage Zulu is that both are preaching that their country's folk / people are suffering from a great injustice.

With Hitler he meant from the Versailles Treaty, the German political elite, Jews and communists. 

With Farage it is from the EU, its political elite, its Eurocrats, its financiers, and the people of Europe.

 ;) ;)

Farage uses a style of oratory which I don't really fancy but can he, through the general thrust of his messages, be labelled an extremist - in the vein of Adolph Hitler - as PF seems to be suggesting?

he's a colourful rogue who's message is gaining support.....he's not Hitler :y
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Re: Tell us what you really think Nigel!
« Reply #24 on: 04 December 2010, 16:31:02 »

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The only link between Hitler and Farage Zulu is that both are preaching that their country's folk / people are suffering from a great injustice.

With Hitler he meant from the Versailles Treaty, the German political elite, Jews and communists. 

With Farage it is from the EU, its political elite, its Eurocrats, its financiers, and the people of Europe.

 ;) ;)

Farage uses a style of oratory which I don't really fancy but can he, through the general thrust of his messages, be labelled an extremist - in the vein of Adolph Hitler - as PF seems to be suggesting?

he's a colourful rogue who's message is gaining support.....he's not Hitler :y


Exactly. How many of us who voted for a 'Common Market' back in Heath's day realised what he really had in mind, a United States of Europe? I certainly didn't, and would not have voted for it if the truth had been told at the time. Pity wikileaks wasn't about then!
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