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[Dishevelled Den]

My Baird 405 line, monochrome tele-visual receiving set, only shows 'snow'......`blinking weather channel!

I`m thinking of updating to a super-het. VHF `set.....when this new-fangled gubbins becomes available.

I must admit that I do miss a knob (or two) to fiddle with - buttons simply aren't as rewarding an experience.

And as for the glowing allure of a warm inviting valve - Oh the humanity.

[Martin_1962]

Freesat and Sky use the same cluster

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I believe Freeview HD channels are available in London, but you won't get 1080 on an HD Ready tv.  Only down-converted to 760 by the tele.

Mine is 1080 - Panasonic VIERA.  Or am I confused yet again with all this new tech rubbish??!!

1080p is full HD, 1080i isn't (its HD ready), Liz 

Thanks BJ

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I think you've found out that BT wouldn't be the first port of call for broadcast 'HD' Lizzie.

In the absence of Freesat you need to look at either Sky or Virgin.

Even so, the broadcast material won't be in 1080P - commonly referred to as full HD and many programmes will be nothing more that electronically up-scaled or 1080i.

That's not to say that the technology isn't worth the effort use. While there is quite a lot of dross on multi-channel television (where a lot of 'HD' content resides) when a programme suits the format - production values, subject matter and so on - the results are very pleasing indeed.

As far as your BT installation is concerned you'll just have to wait for a while to get broadcast 'HD' material.  Unfortunately it also takes an age to download on most BB connections so it's not a particularly convenient way of watching this in my view.

Thanks for the info Zulu, but I do not want Virgin or Sky bills

[Lizzie_Zoom]

My Baird 405 line, monochrome tele-visual receiving set, only shows 'snow'......`blinking weather channel!

I`m thinking of updating to a super-het. VHF `set.....when this new-fangled gubbins becomes available.

Yes Debs and only two channels!  It was sooooo much easier

[Chris_H]

I believe Freeview HD channels are available in London, but you won't get 1080 on an HD Ready tv.  Only down-converted to 760 by the tele.

Mine is 1080 - Panasonic VIERA.  Or am I confused yet again with all this new tech rubbish??!!

1080p is full HD, 1080i isn't (its HD ready), Liz 

Thanks BJ

Except 1080i ISN'T HD Ready.  HD Ready was a brand created to lure people into buying tvs that were not up to displaying the HDTV resolution planned, of 1080 vertical lines.  HD Ready can cope with 720 vertical lines which was an interim HD resolution.

There is no such thing as 'true' HD as 2k and 4k (strangely, horizontal resolution) are already used quite a bit in production circles and could easily migrate to the domestic market as and when suitable display panels become cheap enough.
[edit]On further investigation I see that there is an "HD Ready 1080p" brand that has been added more recently.  I'm not at all sure that these labels help anyone except the marketters.
If people understand the principles they don't need the branding and if they don't understand the principles they won't understand the branding so it adds nothing.[/edit]

[Martin_1962]

If you cannot get Freeast you will not get Sky

BT Vision HD is not bad, better than their streaded SD stuff - I am cancelling now as Demand 5 has gone, BBC is better on PS3 IPlayer, ITV is useless