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mantahatch

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Lies, damned lies and statistics
« on: 26 November 2010, 08:39:35 »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11841368

Did we not have rather a lot of snow and ice earlier this year. And I don't recal a blistering summer either.
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Re: Lies lies and dammed statistics
« Reply #1 on: 26 November 2010, 08:43:10 »

I think you've confused "the world" with "your garden"  :y

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Re: Lies lies and dammed statistics
« Reply #2 on: 26 November 2010, 08:56:47 »

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I think you've confused "the world" with "your garden"  :y

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Actually no. "It says the past 12 months are the warmest recorded by Nasa, and are second in the UK data set, HadCRUT3."

This is the most laughable bit. "Within the bounds of statistical error, "

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« Reply #3 on: 26 November 2010, 09:10:30 »

 ::)It`s one of those 'climate' versus 'weather' stories........IMO: the latter is what causes us all the trouble. ;)
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« Reply #4 on: 26 November 2010, 09:14:56 »

I mostly blame the sun of man - but also many of those righteous individuals/corporations and governments who preach the gospel of carbon restraint while carrying merrily on, insisting they're doing a great job, by buying carbon credits in a bid to lessen their collective responsibility for helping this evil destroy our planet. 
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« Reply #5 on: 26 November 2010, 09:18:31 »

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::)It`s one of those 'climate' versus 'weather' stories........IMO: the latter is what causes us all the trouble. ;)


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Re: Lies lies and dammed statistics
« Reply #6 on: 26 November 2010, 10:24:25 »

<pedant> I think the quote is "Lies, damned lies and statistics" </pedant>

;D

Also, where is my snow?!
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« Reply #7 on: 26 November 2010, 10:31:29 »

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<pedant> I think the quote is "Lies, damned lies and statistics" </pedant>

;D

Also, where is my snow?!


Ok ok smart ar**  ;D ;D Thought we had out fair share of snow down south earlier this year.


Edit, now changed  :y
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Re: Lies, damned lies and statistics
« Reply #8 on: 26 November 2010, 10:35:47 »

We did have a warm, and often sunny, summer in the south east for long periods with it remaining at least mild for some time until recently.  However, in my mind it did never count as a "scoucher" like 1976! ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Lies, damned lies and statistics
« Reply #9 on: 26 November 2010, 10:41:20 »

It's interesting how different people have different takes on the weather.  My mother keeps complaining that we've had a lousy summer (she is in the early stages of dementia at 91) but having scarified the lawn just before the rainless season started, I am painfully aware that we had a long and hot summer.  Both my mum and I were watering our grass (green or yellow stuff that kids roll around on  ;D) and I had to re-seed some of mine.

So, yes, not as hot as 1976 but pretty hot in my opinion.

[edit]I suppose it's not obvious that my mother lives 1/4 mile from me.[/edit]
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Re: Lies, damned lies and statistics
« Reply #10 on: 26 November 2010, 10:46:01 »

Lizzie and Chris, you must have had a much better summer than we had. Our grass grew massively, combination of rain and sun. Never once did it show any sign of turning brown. In fact my grape vine had it's best year ever this year. And the apples we have had are many and large.
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« Reply #11 on: 26 November 2010, 11:35:25 »

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<pedant> I think the quote is "Lies, damned lies and statistics" </pedant>

;D

Also, where is my snow?!


Ok ok smart ar**  ;D ;D Thought we had out fair share of snow down south earlier this year.


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;D ;D Sorry, I couldn't resist!

And that's true, we did have rather a lot of the white stuff in February .. enough to last me a few years, I reckon! I'd rather not have another 6hr drive to get home :)

Oh and my grass died a death in summer, too - most of it turned brown and only half of it came back to life :( Doesn't help that there's a hurfing great Oak tree in the back garden and a hurfing great pine tree that probably suck up all the water.
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« Reply #12 on: 26 November 2010, 12:08:01 »

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« Reply #13 on: 26 November 2010, 12:49:37 »

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Lizzie and Chris, you must have had a much better summer than we had. Our grass grew massively, combination of rain and sun. Never once did it show any sign of turning brown. In fact my grape vine had it's best year ever this year. And the apples we have had are many and large.


Yes, I think it is true that the south east quarter had a far better summer than many other parts of the country.  I remember thinking at the time that we were being very lucky, constantly missing the rain belts that came across parts of the north and west, through to the Southampton area in the south.  Other people I have spoken to down here thought the same way. ;)
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Re: Lies, damned lies and statistics
« Reply #14 on: 26 November 2010, 23:01:45 »

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Lizzie and Chris, you must have had a much better summer than we had. Our grass grew massively, combination of rain and sun. Never once did it show any sign of turning brown. In fact my grape vine had it's best year ever this year. And the apples we have had are many and large.

Agreed, we did have a few weeks in June but the school summer holidays were very poor up here..... :(
We are still waiting for global warming to reach us...... :D :D :D
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