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[Terbs]

Do winter tyres wear out if used in normal conditions, or are they for snow driving.

If only for snow...you want us to spend about 4 to 5 hundred quid on tyres to drive in the snow, when around here, in the south, most of the snow is cleared from the roads within a day.
I just don't use the car for a day.

[cem_devecioglu]

Do winter tyres wear out if used in normal conditions, or are they for snow driving.

If only for snow...you want us to spend about 4 to 5 hundred quid on tyres to drive in the snow, when around here, in the south, most of the snow is cleared from the roads within a day.
I just don't use the car for a day.

nope.. I use 5 months every year of which about 20-40 days of snow (which roads are cleared after some days)  and 30-40 days of rain and the remaining days dry..  and generally they last about 4-5 years .. of course the 4-5th year their performance degrades..

also must note that winter tires are designed for low temperatures , however I generally use them below 17-18 celcius and no probs for many years

only limitation is that dont try breaking speed records with them   (dont pass 60 mph or they will wear faster than normal tires)

[feeutfo]

See, even now the major roads are clear, although my cul de sac is well covered in snow, I can guarantee the avg speed on the motorway is above 60 on the m4 in fact normal driving would be in operation almost. Ie 56 for trucks and about 60 in lane1 for cars, lane 2 will be about 70 and 3 will be 80 to 90 odd in some cases.

Personally my commute is 80% motorway at off peak times. So sitting at speeds below 60 is never going to happen as a rule. Unless there's an incident or a bizzard is happening at that moment.

Winter tyres will last about a month, No?

[cem_devecioglu]

See, even now the major roads are clear, although my cul de sac is well covered in snow, I can guarantee the avg speed on the motorway is above 60 on the m4 in fact normal driving would be in operation almost. Ie 56 for trucks and about 60 in lane1 for cars, lane 2 will be about 70 and 3 will be 80 to 90 odd in some cases.

Personally my commute is 80% motorway at off peak times. So sitting at speeds below 60 is never going to happen as a rule. Unless there's an incident or a bizzard is happening at that moment.

Winter tyres will last about a month, No?

nope.. They will last 4-5 years as I'm not a slow driver.. 

as the olds say, do what I say dont do what I do

and one note : they will make some noise especially the real "ice" type..

[Banjax]

police can't check every car if carrying tyres but random checks may be possible or make it part of insurance whereby rd users have to prove they do have it, or do we have to depend on all rd users to be responsible and do the right thing, although there are many out there who will there are equally some plebs who will not. :-/ :-/ :-/

What's the answer?

they do when the snow starts to fall, and if you dont have them when the police made a check you are in trouble.. :-/

problem solved - use them if you're driving in snow or sub zero temps, or drive in your summer tyres, but risk points if you're caught in the wrong boots 

eventually, like drink driving it'll be consigned to a few idiots and become the norm, plus if it never snows you'd never use them - i dont see the harm, OK its a bit of hassle but if the tyres last 4 yrs or so then its not that expensive, say £80 a corner, plus another £40 to fit them in winter/take them off in summer (about a £2 a week, just forgo one coffee a week, or 6 fags or half a pint) 

[geoffr70]

I think the socialists that we've just got rid of made far too many laws, and making more is the last thing we want to do.

[millwall]

I think the socialists that we've just got rid of made far too many laws, and making more is the last thing we want to do.

tottally agree    why should i have to have winter tyres   if the roads are bad i dont use the car  and lets be fair most of the problems in this weather is down to driver not vehicle

[Dishevelled Den]

Get a reasonable standard of driving established, and drum some common sense into drivers - they do need to prepare for driving in this type of weather!


Kevin

I honestly think we're a long, long way of that one as well K.

This country will have to suffer from the ascendant droogs for the foreseeable future.

It's akin to trying to stop a leviathan - there's just too many of them.

Personally I'd nut one in ten found committing any offence which a modicum of common sense would have prevented.

[Psychoca]

We only get a few days each year where the temparatures and conditions really warrant a use for Winter tyres across the majority of the UK.  I accept in some parts, that they may be practical, but in the main, they are simply an unwarranted expense.

I accept that they function better on the wet and slippery roads in the lower temparatures, but, the Highway code states that we should drive according to the road conditions, so, additional braking distances and perhaps reduced speed is more practical...

The big issue is that the authorities should be handling the salting/gritting in a better manner...

[hotel21]

We only get a few days each year where the temparatures and conditions really warrant a use for Winter tyres across the majority of the UK.  I accept in some parts, that they may be practical, but in the main, they are simply an unwarranted expense.

I accept that they function better on the wet and slippery roads in the lower temparatures, but, the Highway code states that we should drive according to the road conditions, so, additional braking distances and perhaps reduced speed is more practical...

The big issue is that the authorities should be handling the salting/gritting in a better manner...

Bear in mind that salt/grit has no direct effect on snow - different story with ice - and needs wheel/foot movement to churn it into slush which is easier to get thrown to the side and thus clear roads.

[cem_devecioglu]

We only get a few days each year where the temparatures and conditions really warrant a use for Winter tyres across the majority of the UK.  I accept in some parts, that they may be practical, but in the main, they are simply an unwarranted expense.

I accept that they function better on the wet and slippery roads in the lower temparatures, but, the Highway code states that we should drive according to the road conditions, so, additional braking distances and perhaps reduced speed is more practical...

The big issue is that the authorities should be handling the salting/gritting in a better manner...

sooner or later they will see the point that salts damage the asphalt and they will give up.. in fact its not a solution..although it will melt the snow and ice in the day time , when the night arrives and temperatures go minus (meanwhile salt concentration lowers also) it will be ice again..

all of these are tried in snowy countries and laws are arranged according to..

either 1 day or 1 month or 5 months is the same in my opinion.. snow is snow and will risk you and your families life..you ignore it or find a solution.. :-/

[cem_devecioglu]

I think the socialists that we've just got rid of made far too many laws, and making more is the last thing we want to do.

tottally agree    why should i have to have winter tyres   if the roads are bad i dont use the car  and lets be fair most of the problems in this weather is down to driver not vehicle

for how many days .. :-/

[millwall]

I think the socialists that we've just got rid of made far too many laws, and making more is the last thing we want to do.

tottally agree    why should i have to have winter tyres   if the roads are bad i dont use the car  and lets be fair most of the problems in this weather is down to driver not vehicle

for how many days .. :-/

i dont use it at all in bad weather  my mrs has a 4x4 which copes with the snow no problem and unless its really important i wont use the 4x4 either 

[geoffr70]

We only get a few days each year where the temparatures and conditions really warrant a use for Winter tyres across the majority of the UK.  I accept in some parts, that they may be practical, but in the main, they are simply an unwarranted expense.

I accept that they function better on the wet and slippery roads in the lower temparatures, but, the Highway code states that we should drive according to the road conditions, so, additional braking distances and perhaps reduced speed is more practical...

The big issue is that the authorities should be handling the salting/gritting in a better manner...

Ah, yes well you say that Psychoca, don't get me wrong, I'm normally one of the first to start pointing out the failings of the authorities, especially my local labour one.

However, I have seen and heard all these people on the news etc complaining about the state of the roads and the authorities alleged failings with regard to salt acquisition, distribution and spreading. I've even heard stories of people abusing the gritter drivers whilst they're at work.

What I would say to them is the authorities do what they can with the resources they have, and yes sometimes they get caught out like the rest of us. I think it's wrong for people to expect all roads to be totally clear after a heavy fall of snow.

It's nature, one force we cannot stop or control, and the fact that lots of people are complaining about the authorities just shows the culture we have in Britain of a lack or personal responsibility, expecting someone else to do it and a blame culture. Why don't residents clear the snow in their own street?

God help us if there was real problems.

[Danny]

i'm on the hunt for a full set of alloys with winters for mine, to be kept as spares