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The wily old fox has now metamorphosised into a silly old goat 

[Kevin Wood]

The wily old fox has now metamorphosised into a silly old goat 

Time for a sacrifice.

Kevin

[tunnie]

No slagging off my Boss 

From what I understand on the updates the EU has given it the thumbs up, so it is now just down to Cable.

I personally don't have any shares in BSkyB, wish I did! They have gone up quite a bit, not sure what it would actually mean for me if it was bought out. Not a lot I suspect in my department.

[V6 CDX-er]

 Cameron should grow a spine

I wish.

I'm a true blue Tory, a libertarian who believes in small goverment, honesty and integrity, and the ideals of true democracy.

I despised absolutely everything about Nu Labour and everything that they stood for and (failed) to achieve throughout their 13 years at the helm......

I don't see a great deal (so far) that has changed.



True Conservatives are only left with one clear choice on who to vote for come election day, and that isn't the party headed by Mr Cameron 


Anyway, should Vince Cable go? Tricky one that. I think perhaps he should...... but he won't.

And if you do want slippery, may I present the dark lord himself, Peter Mandleson.

[Dishevelled Den]

And if you do want slippery, may I present the dark lord himself, Peter Mandleson.

I was speaking earlier about the sad death of Tony Howard (last Sunday) and happened to refer to a DT piece on it.

In summation reference was made last June to a comment by Tony in which he made this rather telling and very accurate observation during his review of Mandelson’s book;


Lord Mandelson may never have been a popular pin-up but until I watched him in that absurd television commercial, complete with cravat, smoking jacket and bogus library, I did not realise exactly what it was he reminded me of. He is destined, I'm afraid, to go down in history as the demon king of the British political pantomime – the kind of figure who, when we were young and innocent, we used to enjoy hissing off the stage.

Thanks to Daily Telegraph

I think little more need be said.

[Banjax]

so the old Lion has some teeth left, I agree with Lizzie - he's expressing off the record what most Libs are thinking - the most interesting aspect of the whole story is that Cameron obviously doesn't think the coalition government is strong enough to withstand the fallout if Cable was sacked, or he'd have gone by now.

The downside is Old Rupe may get what he wants because the govt will like to be seen to be bending over to accomodate the antipodean tax-dodger it may actually trigger the collapse of the coalition as furious LibDem backbenchers will see this as a step too far

[Nickbat]

 Cameron should grow a spine

I wish.

I'm a true blue Tory, a libertarian who believes in small goverment, honesty and integrity, and the ideals of true democracy.

I despised absolutely everything about Nu Labour and everything that they stood for and (failed) to achieve throughout their 13 years at the helm......

I don't see a great deal (so far) that has changed.



True Conservatives are only left with one clear choice on who to vote for come election day, and that isn't the party headed by Mr Cameron 


Anyway, should Vince Cable go? Tricky one that. I think perhaps he should...... but he won't.

And if you do want slippery, may I present the dark lord himself, Peter Mandleson.

I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. 

[albitz]

Wishful thinking on your part imo Banjax. The Limpdems are dead in the water. Once this coalition is finished they will be farther into the political wilderness than they have been for many a long year.
The boy Miliband is a long way from being credible so far.
If anyone forces an election in the near future, I think the3 Tories would benifit greatly, but the message hasnt filtered through from the focus groups via the spin doctors to Cameron yet, so he is crapping himself.

[albitz]

 Cameron should grow a spine

I wish.

I'm a true blue Tory, a libertarian who believes in small goverment, honesty and integrity, and the ideals of true democracy.

I despised absolutely everything about Nu Labour and everything that they stood for and (failed) to achieve throughout their 13 years at the helm......

I don't see a great deal (so far) that has changed.



True Conservatives are only left with one clear choice on who to vote for come election day, and that isn't the party headed by Mr Cameron 


Anyway, should Vince Cable go? Tricky one that. I think perhaps he should...... but he won't.

And if you do want slippery, may I present the dark lord himself, Peter Mandleson.

I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. 

I wouldnt describe myself as a true blue Tory exectly, but if the Tory party today resembled the party it used to be I would probably vote for them. As long as they were anti EU.

[Nickbat]

Wishful thinking on your part imo Banjax. The Limpdems are dead in the water. Once this coalition is finished they will be farther into the political wilderness than they have been for many a long year.
The boy Miliband is a long way from being credible so far.
If anyone forces an election in the near future, I think the3 Tories would benifit greatly, but the message hasnt filtered through from the focus groups via the spin doctors to Cameron yet, so he is crapping himself.

Don't think so, Albs. Yes, you're right the LimpDems are dead in the water, but read the comments on Conservative Home and you'll see that Cameron is loathed and many are "threatening" to switch, or have indeed already switched, their allegiance to UKIP. As for Millipede, he has the charisma of an amoeba so, except in the tribal labour areas of the North East, they would fare badly if an election was to be held soon, with the BNP picking up disillusioned lab supporters. I think we're on the verge of a sea-change in Brtish politics. Maybe that's whey Cameron & Clegg want to hold on to 2015...but they won't. Mark my words.

[albitz]

Cameron is loathed by traditional Tories, but they do tend to be loyal to the party regardless, And he knows that. Which is why the cuts, so far have mainly affected "the squeezed middle".You and I can only hope that he pushes many of them beyond the breaking point of that loyalty, and into the arms of UKIP.

[V6 CDX-er]

Wishful thinking on your part imo Banjax. The Limpdems are dead in the water. Once this coalition is finished they will be farther into the political wilderness than they have been for many a long year.
The boy Miliband is a long way from being credible so far.
If anyone forces an election in the near future, I think the3 Tories would benifit greatly, but the message hasnt filtered through from the focus groups via the spin doctors to Cameron yet, so he is crapping himself.

Don't think so, Albs. Yes, you're right the LimpDems are dead in the water, but read the comments on Conservative Home and you'll see that Cameron is loathed and many are "threatening" to switch, or have indeed already switched, their allegiance to UKIP. As for Millipede, he has the charisma of an amoeba so, except in the tribal labour areas of the North East, they would fare badly if an election was to be held soon, with the BNP picking up disillusioned lab supporters. I think we're on the verge of a sea-change in Brtish politics. Maybe that's whey Cameron & Clegg want to hold on to 2015...but they won't. Mark my words.

It's the only way IMHO. I'm amazed more folk haven't seen the light.

Interesting fact. If the Conservatives had picked up 90% of the UKIP vote at the last general election, (highly likely if UKIP didn't exist), then there would be no need for the Con-Lib coalition.

[tunnie]

he's no longer in control....

http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/cable_s_future_in_doubt_over_news_corp_war

[Dishevelled Den]

Interesting fact. If the Conservatives had picked up 90% of the UKIP vote at the last general election, (highly likely if UKIP didn't exist), then there would be no need for the Con-Lib coalition.

It may be a moot point 6 as under the present leadership, that party is going nowhere.


Actually I don't think it matters a damn in the strategic sense such is the malign influence of not only the EU (in the day to day running of this country) but of the abysmal standards found in many of those who hold political office in or own 'Sovereign' parliament.

[Banjax]

I'm curious - did anyone privately or publicly think Cable wished Rupert Murdoch had greater control of BSkyB? because as far as I remember it was fairly common knowledge - so whats changed? a politician has a private meeting with two members of the public in which he expresses private views, now those 2 members turn out to be undercover journalists and hes stitched up like a kipper, so a politician with convictions who openly tells the truth and doesnt sit on the fence is pilloried - i would rather 10 Vince Cables in the cabinet than one Osborne frankly

we seem in this country to want to be ruled talentless drones with no opinion, no emotion, no independence just a corporate blancmange with one voice, one thought - its the Orwellian nightmare we were  warned of in the 40's 

luckily for Cleggeron, Vince Cable is the only person in the LibDem party who detests Murdochs empire................no, wait a second..........