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[Nickbat]

I see the "government" is planning to renege on the Conservative pledge to introduce a fuel price stabiliser.

Cameron said "...the cost of filling up a car was ‘incredibly painful for families up and down the country and I understand that’. But he told the BBC: ‘I don’t want to raise people’s hopes too far because it is a difficult issue.’

1. For a millionaire who is chauffered around everywhere, just how patronising can you get? No, Dave, you do not understand.

2. No, Dave, it is not difficult. Just do it.

 

Politicians do not realise they are our servants, not our masters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345624/Petrol-price-increase-David-Cameron-urged-honour-pledge-anger-grows.html#ixzz1AbtvE5hG

[Debs.]

Politicians do not realise they are our servants, not our masters.

  Surely, there must be a punchline to that joke!

[Dishevelled Den]

This is another example of the grandiose language used when in opposition falling flat on its ass when confronted with the realities of government.

If the economic stability of a country is so dependent on tax revenues from fuel (in this case) there is something radically wrong.

Many of the current crop of those presently squatting in Westminster will never have the nous to govern properly and it seems to be very much the case of, when one has one's ass half on the seat of power, one must clench those buttocks to maintain that grasp on power at all costs – even should it mean letting the country run itself into the ground in the process.

What a oppsing joke. [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

[Debs.]

one must clench those buttocks to maintain that grasp on power at all costs

That kind of thing has been the downfall making of many a political career!

[Banjax]

I think you'll find the haulage industry protesting about rising fuel prices soon, not out of greed but necessity. maybe even blocking roads, refineries and ports 

as they say at Milletts "Now is the winter of our discount tents"

or something.

[Nickbat]

I think you'll find the haulage industry protesting about rising fuel prices soon, not out of greed but necessity. maybe even blocking roads, refineries and ports 

as they say at Milletts "Now is the winter of our discount tents"

or something.

Coat > door! 

You are probably right about the protests. What Cameron and his cronies don't seem to realise is that the extra vat and fuel duty will stifle growth and raise inflation. The result? Stagflation - the worst of all economic outcomes.

Plonkers. 

[Kevin Wood]

Coat > door! 

You are probably right about the protests. What Cameron and his cronies don't seem to realise is that the extra vat and fuel duty will stifle growth and raise inflation. The result? Stagflation - the worst of all economic outcomes.

Plonkers. 

Yep. Demand for fuel is not that elastic. People will whinge at the pumps and then carry on using their cars as before. They still have to get to work, hauliers still have to get products to consumers. The outcome will be less disposable income to be spent in the wider economy.

So, the Government can protect their taxation revenue from fuel at the expense of growth in the economy.

I suspect the root of the problem is that limpdem windmill-building cretins are placing "green" issues like not decreasing fuel duty above the survival of the economy, and they have to be pandered to to keep the coalition together.

Kevin

[Banjax]

remember Nick "we're all in this together" says Osborne from his £8k a week villa in the exclusive ski-resort of Klosters 

[Banjax]

Coat > door! 

You are probably right about the protests. What Cameron and his cronies don't seem to realise is that the extra vat and fuel duty will stifle growth and raise inflation. The result? Stagflation - the worst of all economic outcomes.

Plonkers. 

Yep. Demand for fuel is not that elastic. People will whinge at the pumps and then carry on using their cars as before. They still have to get to work, hauliers still have to get products to consumers. The outcome will be less disposable income to be spent in the wider economy.

So, the Government can protect their taxation revenue from fuel at the expense of growth in the economy.

I suspect the root of the problem is that limpdem windmill-building cretins are placing "green" issues like not decreasing fuel duty above the survival of the economy, and they have to be pandered to to keep the coalition together.

Kevin

i dont think its a green issue its a massive cash-cow for the government and has been way before anyone worried about co2 or dwindling resources 

oh its a green issue now as its convenient to maintain the high tax, but what was the excuse previously? 

[Dishevelled Den]

one must clench those buttocks to maintain that grasp on power at all costs

That kind of thing has been the downfall making of many a political career!

  I'm a sort of a 'glass' half full sort of person.

[Marks DTM Calib]

God knows how they could make it work though.

I guess it would need to be in the same way as interest rates are set e.g. a regular meeting and review?

[Dishevelled Den]

i dont think its a green issue its a massive cash-cow for the government and has been way before anyone worried about co2 or dwindling resources 

oh its a green issue now as its convenient to maintain the high tax, but what was the excuse previously? 

Yes I'm inclined to agree with that given the levels of road fuel taxation down through the years.

[Kevin Wood]

i dont think its a green issue its a massive cash-cow for the government and has been way before anyone worried about co2 or dwindling resources 

oh its a green issue now as its convenient to maintain the high tax, but what was the excuse previously? 

Yes I'm inclined to agree with that given the levels of road fuel taxation down through the years.

It's not as big a cash cow as a bouyant economy. Oh, there I go again. These are career politicians we're talking about.

 

Kevin

[Psychoca]

I think you'll find the haulage industry protesting about rising fuel prices soon, not out of greed but necessity. maybe even blocking roads, refineries and ports 

as they say at Milletts "Now is the winter of our discount tents"

or something.

As much as I would like this to happen, I know that it won't...  I am certain that in the very near future there will be shouting about protests and things may even get organised for it.

Sadly the minute that the hauliers or whoever start to block the ports, refineries, etc. the police will be there to move them on...  This happened at the last protest and the one before...  Unfortunately, thanks the the previous government, we are not allowed to protest against anything that will affect the country, a shame really as the panic buying process is the issue that causes major problems...

[Dishevelled Den]

i dont think its a green issue its a massive cash-cow for the government and has been way before anyone worried about co2 or dwindling resources 

oh its a green issue now as its convenient to maintain the high tax, but what was the excuse previously? 

Yes I'm inclined to agree with that given the levels of road fuel taxation down through the years.

It's not as big a cash cow as a bouyant economy. Oh, there I go again. These are career politicians we're talking about.

 

Kevin

Yes, that's another important point K.

Running an economy by managing strategic resources or shaping population behaviour using the blunt instrument of taxation or restriction of service or availability is typical of behaviour of those in government who are bankrupt in ideas.

This inclination seems to have been the preferred method of revenue raising by our political masters of late - hence the apparent lack of forward thinking and concern over the real effects of this economic and social miasma that this country has been directed towards by those very people in government and opposition.

When are they going to act to protect our people rather than notional ideas about duty to Europe, the UN, the worldwide political structure and the bloody environment?