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Re: Why doesn't everything go smoothly?
« Reply #15 on: 12 February 2011, 13:55:41 »

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im like that nowt ever goes smooth and i never get any luck in fact ive always said if i fall in a barrel full of nipples id come out sucking my thumb,i usually buy something and the next day someone says ive got one you could of had.i hate technology and why the hell cant you just buy a printer plug it in and it works on any pc/laptop rant over :)

Because we live in what is euphemistically called a consumer society. The manufacturers deliberately design hardware and software NOT to work on the next generation of equipment. The end result vast amounts of waste of perfectly good stuff but it apparently makes the world go round!
Not quite.  The (low cost) printer manufacturers actually make a loss on the printers. Why on earth would they spend considerable amounts of money developing, debugging, supporting and distributing new drivers.

You will find more business oriented printers do get driver updates - there are Windows 7 and Windows 2008 Server R2 drivers for my trusty old Laserjet 4000. Business printers are sold for profit, so scope for ongoing development (which is what businesses want (and pay for)), but home users obviously only want to pay £29 for a printer.

But they do make a huge profit on ink carts...
Yup. Thats where they claw back the money (on consumer products).

But the costs involved in developing new drivers for older printers v the money lost on selling a new printer is usually in favour of new printer.  Reduces support costs as well. This can have double whammy in some cases of people binning ink, and buying more ::).
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Re: Why doesn't everything go smoothly?
« Reply #16 on: 12 February 2011, 15:14:35 »

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im like that nowt ever goes smooth and i never get any luck in fact ive always said if i fall in a barrel full of nipples id come out sucking my thumb,i usually buy something and the next day someone says ive got one you could of had.i hate technology and why the hell cant you just buy a printer plug it in and it works on any pc/laptop rant over :)

Because we live in what is euphemistically called a consumer society. The manufacturers deliberately design hardware and software NOT to work on the next generation of equipment. The end result vast amounts of waste of perfectly good stuff but it apparently makes the world go round!
Not quite.  The (low cost) printer manufacturers actually make a loss on the printers. Why on earth would they spend considerable amounts of money developing, debugging, supporting and distributing new drivers.

You will find more business oriented printers do get driver updates - there are Windows 7 and Windows 2008 Server R2 drivers for my trusty old Laserjet 4000. Business printers are sold for profit, so scope for ongoing development (which is what businesses want (and pay for)), but home users obviously only want to pay £29 for a printer.

But they do make a huge profit on ink carts...
Yup. Thats where they claw back the money (on consumer products).

But the costs involved in developing new drivers for older printers v the money lost on selling a new printer is usually in favour of new printer.  Reduces support costs as well. This can have double whammy in some cases of people binning ink, and buying more ::).


Indeed TB.  When I managed a superstore selling printers we usually looked for just a 5% margin, as it was on the consumerables (ink cartridges) we made the profit; up to a 60% margin!! :D :D :D ;)
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Re: Why doesn't everything go smoothly?
« Reply #17 on: 13 February 2011, 07:58:51 »

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im like that nowt ever goes smooth and i never get any luck in fact ive always said if i fall in a barrel full of nipples id come out sucking my thumb,i usually buy something and the next day someone says ive got one you could of had.i hate technology and why the hell cant you just buy a printer plug it in and it works on any pc/laptop rant over :)

Because we live in what is euphemistically called a consumer society. The manufacturers deliberately design hardware and software NOT to work on the next generation of equipment. The end result vast amounts of waste of perfectly good stuff but it apparently makes the world go round!
Not quite.  The (low cost) printer manufacturers actually make a loss on the printers. Why on earth would they spend considerable amounts of money developing, debugging, supporting and distributing new drivers.

You will find more business oriented printers do get driver updates - there are Windows 7 and Windows 2008 Server R2 drivers for my trusty old Laserjet 4000. Business printers are sold for profit, so scope for ongoing development (which is what businesses want (and pay for)), but home users obviously only want to pay £29 for a printer.

But they do make a huge profit on ink carts...
Yup. Thats where they claw back the money (on consumer products).

But the costs involved in developing new drivers for older printers v the money lost on selling a new printer is usually in favour of new printer.  Reduces support costs as well. This can have double whammy in some cases of people binning ink, and buying more ::).

Yup, now got to buy a new printer/scanner as there are no drivers for win7.
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Re: Why doesn't everything go smoothly?
« Reply #18 on: 13 February 2011, 11:13:22 »

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Yup, now got to buy a new printer/scanner as there are no drivers for win7.
I think when we chatted, I said that would be likely.

Though a new printer will perform better than your old one I suspect, so not quite as bad as it seems.

I used to be anti all-in-one devices (up til a couple of years ago, they were pretty poor), currently use an Epson PX700W which works very well. Wirelessly.
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Re: Why doesn't everything go smoothly?
« Reply #19 on: 13 February 2011, 12:27:16 »

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im like that nowt ever goes smooth and i never get any luck in fact ive always said if i fall in a barrel full of nipples id come out sucking my thumb,i usually buy something and the next day someone says ive got one you could of had.i hate technology and why the hell cant you just buy a printer plug it in and it works on any pc/laptop rant over :)

Because we live in what is euphemistically called a consumer society. The manufacturers deliberately design hardware and software NOT to work on the next generation of equipment. The end result vast amounts of waste of perfectly good stuff but it apparently makes the world go round!
Not quite.  The (low cost) printer manufacturers actually make a loss on the printers. Why on earth would they spend considerable amounts of money developing, debugging, supporting and distributing new drivers.

You will find more business oriented printers do get driver updates - there are Windows 7 and Windows 2008 Server R2 drivers for my trusty old Laserjet 4000. Business printers are sold for profit, so scope for ongoing development (which is what businesses want (and pay for)), but home users obviously only want to pay £29 for a printer.

But they do make a huge profit on ink carts...
Yup. Thats where they claw back the money (on consumer products).

But the costs involved in developing new drivers for older printers v the money lost on selling a new printer is usually in favour of new printer.  Reduces support costs as well. This can have double whammy in some cases of people binning ink, and buying more ::).

Yup, now got to buy a new printer/scanner as there are no drivers for win7.

As i'm thinking of upgrading to win7, that made me check my epson printer, as it was expensive, but no longer in production....thankfully there are win7 drivers for it on epson's website....otherwise that would have changed my mind about upgrading.
Wasnt fussed about the cheap lexmark i have as well, but suprisingly there are win7 drivers for that too  :y
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