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Re: Budget
« Reply #30 on: 24 March 2011, 06:05:18 »

I think everytime an under-fire tory resorts to the line "the mess the last government left" or some such a caption should automatically appear at the bottom of the screen "Tories agreed with Labour spending plans at the time and would have matched them pound for pound".

Whats disappointing is I appear to be the only person pointing it out (for months)  - seems the right-wing media are letting the tories off on this one and have done since the election  :o

I'm sure eventually, when the Tories have once again decimated whats left of industry and strangled any glimmer of growth the truth will dawn that they know how to keep the rich rich and rely on them to fix it - aint gonna happen Gideon - the rich (as you should know) look after themselves and no one else, thats where governments come in - and yet again unemployment seems to be the price worth paying - i doubt Gideon or Dave (or Nick for that matter) have ever worried about money for a second in their privileged, work-shy lives hence the willingness to destroy jobs and decimate programmes designed to help the most needy (and least likely to vote) in the country :(

oh, thanks for the 1p off a litre tho, but you added 3p in tax at the start of the year...remember? so another 3p off would actually make it 1p cheaper - is this clear? I know you assume that anyone not rich enough to ignore fuel taxation is probably too stupid to work this one out  ;D
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« Reply #31 on: 24 March 2011, 06:12:38 »

What would you do ?
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« Reply #32 on: 24 March 2011, 07:48:59 »

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1p per litre, not enough I'm afraid  :(
surely you didnt expect it to be more >:(

It could have been more if the reduction in government income due to the fuel price reduction was offset by increasing the taxation on the oil companys that are doing very well at the moment due to the high price of crude oil

Note though the levy on North Sea oil companies is going up from 20% to 30% 8-) 8-) Around £2 billion per year each apparently:y :y :y :y
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Wouldn't one  be rather naive think that that wont be passed either directly or indirectly onto the consumer ?
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Re: Budget
« Reply #33 on: 24 March 2011, 08:06:32 »

All the garages in Ashford have put 2p on all fuel in the last week, so it's still a penny dearer, and another thing, is he still missing the fact that 90% of fuel is still above £1.30 a litre? What he should've done is take 30p of the 80p duty that's on fuel.
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Re: Budget
« Reply #34 on: 24 March 2011, 08:16:34 »

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I think everytime an under-fire tory resorts to the line "the mess the last government left" or some such a caption should automatically appear at the bottom of the screen "Tories agreed with Labour spending plans at the time and would have matched them pound for pound".

Whats disappointing is I appear to be the only person pointing it out (for months)  - seems the right-wing media are letting the tories off on this one and have done since the election  :o

I'm sure eventually, when the Tories have once again decimated whats left of industry and strangled any glimmer of growth the truth will dawn that they know how to keep the rich rich and rely on them to fix it - aint gonna happen Gideon - the rich (as you should know) look after themselves and no one else, thats where governments come in - and yet again unemployment seems to be the price worth paying - i doubt Gideon or Dave (or Nick for that matter) have ever worried about money for a second in their privileged, work-shy lives hence the willingness to destroy jobs and decimate programmes designed to help the most needy (and least likely to vote) in the country :(

oh, thanks for the 1p off a litre tho, but you added 3p in tax at the start of the year...remember? so another 3p off would actually make it 1p cheaper - is this clear? I know you assume that anyone not rich enough to ignore fuel taxation is probably too stupid to work this one out  ;D

Well said BJ, but it'll be the same old story any Conservative follower will just say all this needs to happen thanks to Labour, yes I'll admit Labour did a shit job, but the Conservative have come in and are set to make it a hell of a lot worse.

Apparently they've changed what they said though according to some folk because they didn't know the extent of the problem. Ok I'm sure that's true  ::)
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Re: Budget
« Reply #35 on: 24 March 2011, 08:30:25 »

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I think everytime an under-fire tory resorts to the line "the mess the last government left" or some such a caption should automatically appear at the bottom of the screen "Tories agreed with Labour spending plans at the time and would have matched them pound for pound".

Whats disappointing is I appear to be the only person pointing it out (for months)  - seems the right-wing media are letting the tories off on this one and have done since the election  :o

I'm sure eventually, when the Tories have once again decimated whats left of industry and strangled any glimmer of growth the truth will dawn that they know how to keep the rich rich and rely on them to fix it - aint gonna happen Gideon - the rich (as you should know) look after themselves and no one else, thats where governments come in - and yet again unemployment seems to be the price worth paying - i doubt Gideon or Dave (or Nick for that matter) have ever worried about money for a second in their privileged, work-shy lives hence the willingness to destroy jobs and decimate programmes designed to help the most needy (and least likely to vote) in the country :(

oh, thanks for the 1p off a litre tho, but you added 3p in tax at the start of the year...remember? so another 3p off would actually make it 1p cheaper - is this clear? I know you assume that anyone not rich enough to ignore fuel taxation is probably too stupid to work this one out  ;D


That is not what the various business leaders have said, with them agreeing the budget should encourage business from abroad to come to the UK.

With fuel it is not only the 1p cut, but the 5p that is not going on next month that is the good news.  The Government must raise income in some form or another, and I'm afraid if you drive a vehicle you are going to be hit, like smokers and drinkers.

What would you have done though BJ?  Where would you raise taxes, or cut expenditure, to balance the UK books paying ten's of millions of pounds in interest payments per week on the debts created by the last Labour Government?


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Re: Budget
« Reply #36 on: 24 March 2011, 08:38:58 »

We need a civil war, there is no forces to fight us as they are too busy in libya and afganistan ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Budget
« Reply #37 on: 24 March 2011, 08:45:20 »

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All the garages in Ashford have put 2p on all fuel in the last week, so it's still a penny dearer, and another thing, is he still missing the fact that 90% of fuel is still above £1.30 a litre? What he should've done is take 30p of the 80p duty that's on fuel.
they did the same in se london del  up 3p then down 1p 
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Re: Budget
« Reply #38 on: 24 March 2011, 08:52:41 »

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All the garages in Ashford have put 2p on all fuel in the last week, so it's still a penny dearer, and another thing, is he still missing the fact that 90% of fuel is still above £1.30 a litre? What he should've done is take 30p of the 80p duty that's on fuel.
they did the same in se london del  up 3p then down 1p 

They will do mate, they'll get it one way or another they'll just cover it up as best as possible  >:(
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Re: Budget
« Reply #39 on: 24 March 2011, 09:24:16 »

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All the garages in Ashford have put 2p on all fuel in the last week, so it's still a penny dearer, and another thing, is he still missing the fact that 90% of fuel is still above £1.30 a litre? What he should've done is take 30p of the 80p duty that's on fuel.

They've got to get the money to dig us out of Brown's hole somehow.. I suppose they could have put it on income tax instead, eh?
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Re: Budget
« Reply #40 on: 24 March 2011, 10:31:58 »

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All the garages in Ashford have put 2p on all fuel in the last week, so it's still a penny dearer, and another thing, is he still missing the fact that 90% of fuel is still above £1.30 a litre? What he should've done is take 30p of the 80p duty that's on fuel.

They've got to get the money to dig us out of Brown's hole somehow.. I suppose they could have put it on income tax instead, eh?

All I can say is read BJ's post, it summed it up nicely.
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Re: Budget
« Reply #41 on: 24 March 2011, 10:44:50 »

No better or worse than expected.

A positive was the reduction in the required borrowing.

As long as the Labour scum dont get back in for a few more terms the mess might just about get sorted out.
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« Reply #42 on: 24 March 2011, 10:53:12 »

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No better or worse than expected.

A positive was the reduction in the required borrowing.

As long as the Labour scum dont get back in for a few more terms the mess might just about get sorted out.

Just in time for the next party to get us right back in the Brown stuff again ::) ::)

TBH, I think the Budget was very realistic for the current state of the economy. At least they haven't used the "Public Health" route for taxing Alcohol.

As with any budget, there have been increases in taxes (in some areas)... Isn't that what Budgets are about though :-/ ::)
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Re: Budget
« Reply #43 on: 24 March 2011, 12:09:16 »

What a pleasant surprise this morning to hear Osborne say that it wasn't a 1 p reduction but a SIX p reduction. That has put another £100 on each of my Omegas overnight.

I love the selective use of CPI and RPI. very clever as most folk don't spot that. Good use of smoke and mirrors.

Nice time bomb we are sitting on with fuel, energy, food costs all spiralling seemingly out of control. It only needs interest rates to go up and then up go mortgages cost of business borrowing (assuming you can find a bank prepared to lend).

There is a silver lining in the clouds as there will be plenty of arms sales to be made during and after the various conflicts we have our fingers in. A Spanish company had just upgraded the Libyan air traffic control! :y   
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« Reply #44 on: 24 March 2011, 13:01:18 »

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All the garages in Ashford have put 2p on all fuel in the last week, so it's still a penny dearer, and another thing, is he still missing the fact that 90% of fuel is still above £1.30 a litre? What he should've done is take 30p of the 80p duty that's on fuel.

They've got to get the money to dig us out of Brown's hole somehow.. I suppose they could have put it on income tax instead, eh?

All I can say is read BJ's post, it summed it up nicely.
What it doesnt do is answer the question of where the money will come from. Bearing in mind that if this country was a company the recievers would have been called in a long time ago.The Socialists all seem to think there is a money tree in the treasury garden and if they want more money they can just go and pick some more from the tree. It was this mentality from socialist chancellors which has put the countries economy in the worst state it has ever been in. The amount of borrowing is nothing short of staggering, and it has to be stopped and then it has to be paid back.
The only way for the Govt to raise money is to tax peoples income and assets, and Brown cynically borrowed countless billions, knowing that in the future his successors would have to take the money back from the citizens of this country.
Personally, I think they should be cutting public spending much more than they are, and cutting taxes for those who create wealth. :y
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