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crb checks, quick question.
« on: 26 March 2011, 09:46:06 »

If i wanted to do a check on a person it looks like i cant as an individual without paying some astronomical fee. anybody have any idea,s on this.
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Re: crb checks, quick question.
« Reply #1 on: 26 March 2011, 10:10:01 »

No way round it. Pay up. Plus, the person you want to check on has to agree and fill in a form.
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Re: crb checks, quick question.
« Reply #2 on: 26 March 2011, 10:12:46 »

cheers steve, thats what i thought tbh. ;)
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Re: crb checks, quick question.
« Reply #3 on: 26 March 2011, 15:09:38 »

ok, lets try another question, if a "person" wants to check there own crb...is it possible?.
& before you ask, no its not me :D
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Re: crb checks, quick question.
« Reply #4 on: 26 March 2011, 15:33:32 »

Nope. Only organisations or employers registered with the CRB can request a records check.
There are two types of registered organisation:

a registered body - the employer
an umbrella body - a registered body that processes criminal record checks for non-registered organisations
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Re: crb checks, quick question.
« Reply #5 on: 26 March 2011, 20:24:07 »

The certificate comes back to you though and it's up to you to hand it to your employer.  Been through it several times now
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« Reply #6 on: 26 March 2011, 20:25:57 »

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The certificate comes back to you though and it's up to you to hand it to your employer.  Been through it several times now


Two certificates are posted out in education. One to you and one to HR. As far as I can tell, it would be pretty use less if you were the only one to receive a copy.
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« Reply #7 on: 26 March 2011, 20:28:06 »

Checked to make sure:

How does the Disclosure process work?
In order for an individual or organisation to make a disclosure application they must either register with the CRB to become a registered body in their own right. This means nominating a lead counter signatory for your organisation who, will have to undergo an enhanced disclosure check themselves. There is however a registration fee of £300. Alternatively an individual or organisation may prefer to undertake the services of an Umbrella Body like Atlantic Data Ltd. who will act as an intermediary and countersign the application on the organisation or individual's behalf. Once either of these two routes has been adopted the applicant must fill out a form which will be checked by the registered body and then sent to the CRB for processing where the police record check and the DH and DfES checks will be done. Finally a disclosure certificate will be sent simultaneously to the applicant and the lead counter signatory of the registered body.
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Re: crb checks, quick question.
« Reply #8 on: 26 March 2011, 20:45:54 »

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The certificate comes back to you though and it's up to you to hand it to your employer.  Been through it several times now


Two certificates are posted out in education. One to you and one to HR. As far as I can tell, it would be pretty use less if you were the only one to receive a copy.

hmm only one gets sent out for us, I wonder why it's different?
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« Reply #9 on: 26 March 2011, 20:47:43 »

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The certificate comes back to you though and it's up to you to hand it to your employer.  Been through it several times now


Two certificates are posted out in education. One to you and one to HR. As far as I can tell, it would be pretty use less if you were the only one to receive a copy.

hmm only one gets sent out for us, I wonder why it's different?


They're just telling you that. You know: 'Keep 'em in the dark and feed them on bullshit'. ;D
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The certificate comes back to you though and it's up to you to hand it to your employer.  Been through it several times now


Two certificates are posted out in education. One to you and one to HR. As far as I can tell, it would be pretty use less if you were the only one to receive a copy.

hmm only one gets sent out for us, I wonder why it's different?


They're just telling you that. You know: 'Keep 'em in the dark and feed them on bullshit'. ;D

I know for a fact that we dont get sent one for anyone we check, they have to bring it in for us to see and copy.
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The certificate comes back to you though and it's up to you to hand it to your employer.  Been through it several times now


Two certificates are posted out in education. One to you and one to HR. As far as I can tell, it would be pretty use less if you were the only one to receive a copy.

hmm only one gets sent out for us, I wonder why it's different?


They're just telling you that. You know: 'Keep 'em in the dark and feed them on bullshit'. ;D

I know for a fact that we dont get sent one for anyone we check, they have to bring it in for us to see and copy.


That' right. If you apply for a job at, say, a school, the local authority apply for a CRB check. You are sent a certificate and the HR dept. are sent one. The actual school does not get to see it. It is up to HR to check it and inform the school if there is any reason you should not be employed, but they do not state that reason.
I'm pretty sure the MOD would receive a copy for you.
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Re: crb checks, quick question.
« Reply #12 on: 26 March 2011, 21:25:40 »

interesting replies guys, thanks. :y
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Re: crb checks, quick question.
« Reply #13 on: 26 March 2011, 21:28:40 »

Yes, one copy goes to the person named on the check and the other to the address on the register for the organisation who submitted the check (so if its not the MOD then check the registered address!).
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Re: crb checks, quick question.
« Reply #14 on: 27 March 2011, 02:32:05 »

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If i wanted to do a check on a person it looks like i cant as an individual without paying some astronomical fee. anybody have any idea,s on this.
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This depends on the reason for the check, if an employer, then as others have posted, and two are posted out, one to the person and one to the employer, who is the person who requested the check.. :y

If however you are a member of the public, with a concern, or a parent with a new partner then there is an alternative check via the Police under 'Sarah's Law' you need to speak with your local Police child protection / public protection department and they will inform you if your request is eligible.... :y

I am aware of a such a recent check, that on the person concerned nothing turned up, but on the person applying something did ::) ::) ::) I would have loved to follow this through and challenged the person who applied for the check, as it was bang out of order, I was aware of the reason for their request, which was done for little reason imho, but was not allowed to for confidentiality reasons... :( :(
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