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[TheBoy]

I agree to some extent, but no matter what us viewers and fans think, the rules and regs will still dictated by a few half wits that have never sat behind the wheel on an F1 car. Therefore, we pretty much have to get what we're given regardless of our own opinions. Sad, but that's always been the way of F1.

So its up to the real fans to let the FIA know, not just be fanatical about dull racing

[bob.dent]

I agree to some extent, but no matter what us viewers and fans think, the rules and regs will still dictated by a few half wits that have never sat behind the wheel on an F1 car. Therefore, we pretty much have to get what we're given regardless of our own opinions. Sad, but that's always been the way of F1.

So its up to the real fans to let the FIA know, not just be fanatical about dull racing

Perhaps they should let the drivers make the rules and regs........now that could be interesting.

[Banjax]

just as "dull" now as it was in the 80's and 90's - its not up for debate the facts speak volumes, you're all swallowing the "accepted truth" i'm afraid 

what you may be mis-remembering is reliability was worse, safety was much worse and coverage was much less.

and f1 has always tinkered with the rules and brought in innovations to improve performance or limit power and grip.....thats kinda the point of f1.....i think the ones who see it as dull would always be bored by it in any era 'cept nowadays its easier to hark back to a "golden age" and pretend you'd like f1 if only..........

if you have the attention span of a gnat, watch big foot trucking or nascar 

[bob.dent]

just as "dull" now as it was in the 80's and 90's - its not up for debate the facts speak volumes, you're all swallowing the "accepted truth" i'm afraid 

Anything can be termed as "dull" if you have no passion for a particular sport or interest. I find cricket very dull, but thousands of people thoroughly enjoy it.

[Kevin Wood]

Irritating this, the boring tag. I fail to see how a moving object travelling at these sorts of speeds can possibly be boring....

Well, I spent Saturday night sitting in a 747 doing 3x the speed of a F1 car and boring isn't the word. Why? Risks clinically controlled. Not an ounce of competition aside from ticket price and only the slimmest of possibilities that some unexpected failure causes life to suddenly become more exciting.

Same problem as F1, IMHO.

Kevin

[tunnie]

Irritating this, the boring tag. I fail to see how a moving object travelling at these sorts of speeds can possibly be boring....

Well, I spent Saturday night sitting in a 747 doing 3x the speed of a F1 car and boring isn't the word. Why? Risks clinically controlled. Not an ounce of competition aside from ticket price and only the slimmest of possibilities that some unexpected failure causes life to suddenly become more exciting.

Same problem as F1, IMHO.

Kevin

Indeed, on a flight, I usually hope for some turbulence to spice things up a bit!

Then ignore the warnings and insist on a bathroom visit 

[Nickbat]

Irritating this, the boring tag. I fail to see how a moving object travelling at these sorts of speeds can possibly be boring....

Well, I spent Saturday night sitting in a 747 doing 3x the speed of a F1 car and boring isn't the word. Why? Risks clinically controlled. Not an ounce of competition aside from ticket price and only the slimmest of possibilities that some unexpected failure causes life to suddenly become more exciting.

Same problem as F1, IMHO.

Kevin

A problem easily cured, Kevin. Just make sure you fly Indian next time!

NEW DELHI: Fasten your seat belts, the captain of your plane may have fudged his papers to get a flying licence. Investigations by the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA), initiated after a woman pilot was found repeatedly landing wrongly on the nosewheel of the plane, have thrown up two more pilots who forged their qualifying papers. Fake captains are fast emerging as the biggest threat to safe flying in India.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-03-09/india/28671927_1_pilots-dgca-licences

 

[Kevin Wood]

A problem easily cured, Kevin. Just make sure you fly Indian next time!

NEW DELHI: Fasten your seat belts, the captain of your plane may have fudged his papers to get a flying licence. Investigations by the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA), initiated after a woman pilot was found repeatedly landing wrongly on the nosewheel of the plane, have thrown up two more pilots who forged their qualifying papers. Fake captains are fast emerging as the biggest threat to safe flying in India.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-03-09/india/28671927_1_pilots-dgca-licences

 

Not entirely sure how you land an airliner repeatedly on the nose wheel without ending up with a heap of junk at the end of the tarmac.

Kevin

[feeutfo]

..... a few half wits that have never sat behind the wheel on an F1 car.

It is very easy to be critical having never done the job isn't it? ....   

Add an average of 150mph on to a journey and see how easy it is. And any idiot can sit in a straightline mid air at mark1 and be board. In flight movie included. 

[albitz]

I would reccomend that everyone watches on iplayer, the film Banjax mentioned earlier in the thread. One of the things it demonstrated to me was that things needed to change so badly, but now they have let the pendulum swing too far in the opposite direction. Thrown the baby out with the bath water, and made the sport tedious in the process.

[TheBoy]

..... a few half wits that have never sat behind the wheel on an F1 car.

It is very easy to be critical having never done the job isn't it? ....   

Add an average of 150mph on to a journey and see how easy it is. And any idiot can sit in a straightline mid air at mark1 and be board. In flight movie included. 

My eldest brother has driven an F1 car (despite his bulk, I'm surprised they squeezed him in ), and he said it was very exciting. Lucky bastard.

So, whilst I can only dream imagine how exciting it is to drive one, I still maintain its boring to watch one currently


I tend to go to the free F1 test days at Silverstone, as its just down the road. Though it lacks the GP atmosphere, it tends to be more enjoyable to watch, not least because you are actually there, but also because the test drivers often do try that little bit harder with unknown components/setups, resulting in lockups under braking, 180/360s leaving corners etc...

[Banjax]

I would reccomend that everyone watches on iplayer, the film Banjax mentioned earlier in the thread. One of the things it demonstrated to me was that things needed to change so badly, but now they have let the pendulum swing too far in the opposite direction. Thrown the baby out with the bath water, and made the sport tedious in the process.

some of it was gobsmacking, the attitude of the owners (Colin Chapman doesn't come out smelling of roses) and circuit bosses beggared belief in some cases - Jackie Stewart asking if maybe some of the trees near high speed corners could be cut down at Spa was told "you know where the saws are kept" 

total world away from the pampered lives they lead now.......and the last section with Purley trying to save his fellow driver  (Williamson) at the '73 Dutch GP was heartbreaking

[feeutfo]

..... a few half wits that have never sat behind the wheel on an F1 car.

It is very easy to be critical having never done the job isn't it? ....   

Add an average of 150mph on to a journey and see how easy it is. And any idiot can sit in a straightline mid air at mark1 and be board. In flight movie included. 

My eldest brother has driven an F1 car (despite his bulk, I'm surprised they squeezed him in ), and he said it was very exciting. Lucky blank.

So, whilst I can only dream imagine how exciting it is to drive one, I still maintain its boring to watch one currently


I tend to go to the free F1 test days at Silverstone, as its just down the road. Though it lacks the GP atmosphere, it tends to be more enjoyable to watch, not least because you are actually there, but also because the test drivers often do try that little bit harder with unknown components/setups, resulting in lockups under braking, 180/360s leaving corners etc...

So F1 is not boring, clearly. But it's presentation on tv is...? Hence an F1 race is defo on my bucket list, if I could ever afford the ticket price. Christ! 
   Even better if free and now crowds of odd balls wearing Mclaren shirts. Much as I love the team.
An F1 car flat out through maggots, beckets, chapel.... That I want to see.

[TheBoy]

..... a few half wits that have never sat behind the wheel on an F1 car.

It is very easy to be critical having never done the job isn't it? ....   

Add an average of 150mph on to a journey and see how easy it is. And any idiot can sit in a straightline mid air at mark1 and be board. In flight movie included. 

My eldest brother has driven an F1 car (despite his bulk, I'm surprised they squeezed him in ), and he said it was very exciting. Lucky blank.

So, whilst I can only dream imagine how exciting it is to drive one, I still maintain its boring to watch one currently


I tend to go to the free F1 test days at Silverstone, as its just down the road. Though it lacks the GP atmosphere, it tends to be more enjoyable to watch, not least because you are actually there, but also because the test drivers often do try that little bit harder with unknown components/setups, resulting in lockups under braking, 180/360s leaving corners etc...

So F1 is not boring, clearly. But it's presentation on tv is...? Hence an F1 race is defo on my bucket list, if I could ever afford the ticket price. Christ! 
   Even better if free and now crowds of odd balls wearing Mclaren shirts. Much as I love the team.
An F1 car flat out through maggots, beckets, chapel.... That I want to see.

F1 would be so much more if it was allowed to be a race. Imagine those same cars wheel to wheel for lap upon lap. Thats why I'd rather watch BTTC than F1

[albitz]

I went to the British GP in 80/81/82. And as much as I agree that the speed of the current cars through Beckets would be a sight to see,I would still rather go back to Brands and watch them going at a lesser (but still very fast) rate of knots round paddock hill bend and winding on opposite lock in the middle of it as they exceeded the mechanical grip of the chassis and tyres.
I wouldnt dream of paying for a ticket to watch F1 now, although I would probably go if it was a freebie, just to see how quick they are these days, close up.