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Lizzie_Zoom

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Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« on: 28 March 2011, 19:42:57 »
From 1935 to 1939 there was a tremendous movement within the transport industry to streamline.  With Steam locomotives, and the trains that went with them, they were streamlined to gain a speed advantage and to look futuristict.

First came the streamliners of the LNER in 1935; Nigel Gresley's A4 Pacific passenger express locomotives.

This is one example of a preserved A4, LNER No. 4464, BR 60019 Bittern built in 1937at Doncaster



Also preserved A4 Mallard LNER 4468, BR 60022, built in 1937/38 at Doncaster, set the world speed record for a steam engine at 126 mph on 3rd July 1938 (my father was on the train!)




Not to be outdone William Stanier, CME at the LMS introduced the Coronation Class of Pacific passenger express locomotive in 1937 to complete with the LNER expresses to the North.

This beauty is the preserved example LMS 6229, BR 46229, Duchess of Hamilton, built in 1938 at Crewe, rebuilt into a non-streamliner in 1947, but has now been restored into streamline status by the National Railway Museum - beautiful!! :-* :-* :-* 8-) 8-) 8-)






The GWR mounted a feeble attempt at streamlining in 1935 after Gresley had introduced his version, on one Castle and one King class of locomotives; but they are not worth talking about! 

Well, what do you think?! GWR Castle 5005 Manorbier Castle after emerging from the Swindon works in 1935 ;D ;D



Now streamlined road vehicles also started to appear:

A Piece Silver Arrow Car 1933 (well the USA was always ahead of us on this 'science'!! ::) ::) ::))



A Lancia Aprilia 1938:




Well what can you add to the "Streamline" story pre-WW2 - or later?! :D :D :D ;)
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Re: Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« Reply #1 on: 30 March 2011, 09:34:17 »
So the subject of streamlining engineering history on locomotives, cars, etc attracts no comments? :o :o :o :o

Oh well, fair enough, I will stay clear of "engineering" subjects on this Car Forum!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y

Funny old world!! :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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« Reply #2 on: 30 March 2011, 10:29:19 »
Lizzie, I'll come to your rescue!

You're obviously interested in early streamlining attempts and engineering in general, so you'll probably already be aware of the maverick American designer and engineer Buckminster Fuller.
His 'Dymaxion' car, a 20 foot long teardrop shaped aerodynamic wonder, is in the following youtube video....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlLZE23EJKs

P.S - Is the Duchess of Hamilton at York Railway Museum?
When I was there last (early 2008), I'm sure it wasn't, because if it had been, I'd have spent hours just staring at it! That is FABULOUS!  :)
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« Reply #3 on: 30 March 2011, 11:45:44 »
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Lizzie, I'll come to your rescue!

You're obviously interested in early streamlining attempts and engineering in general, so you'll probably already be aware of the maverick American designer and engineer Buckminster Fuller.
His 'Dymaxion' car, a 20 foot long teardrop shaped aerodynamic wonder, is in the following youtube video....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlLZE23EJKs

P.S - Is the Duchess of Hamilton at York Railway Museum?
When I was there last (early 2008), I'm sure it wasn't, because if it had been, I'd have spent hours just staring at it! That is FABULOUS!  :)

Thanks Tony! :y :y :y :y

I thought somebody must want to contribute on this interesting subject, and you have come up with an early beauty!! 8-) 8-) 8-) :y

No, I must admit I knew nothing about Buckminster Fuller, but his car has intrigued me and I must research him further! :D :D  Thanks again! :y :y :y

As for the Duchess of Hamilton I understand she is back in York as a star exhibit, as in the picture I posted, following her re-streamlining.  Is she not beautiful and stunning?!  As you say she IS FABULOUS, and like you I just kept on looking at the pictures I could find on her.  All my 1930 photographs of these wonderful streamliners are in black and white, so to see her in the form she is in in full LMS crimson lake is quite something! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* ;)
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« Reply #4 on: 30 March 2011, 16:41:33 »
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« Reply #5 on: 30 March 2011, 17:17:04 »
Some of those trains are BEAUTIFUL..!!!
If looks could kill......(they probs did if you got hit at 130mph!!!  :o)
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« Reply #6 on: 30 March 2011, 17:26:03 »
something about 30's design I really like, my flat was built in 1935, massive rooms and celling, much better than modern builds.

Office builds are the same, where I work we used to have this:







But they demolished it, the day before it was due to be listed. A bank holiday Monday no less!

Now got this 80's pile of poo where I work:



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« Reply #7 on: 30 March 2011, 17:30:53 »
Cannot believe they demolished that.....

Criminals.
So obviously done just in time for them to get permissions for that piece of 80's blandness.
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« Reply #8 on: 30 March 2011, 17:58:46 »
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Some of those trains are BEAUTIFUL..!!!
If looks could kill......(they probs did if you got hit at 130mph!!!  :o)


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Well 4468 Mallard wrecked destroyed its motion in its 126 mph run!! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D :y
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« Reply #9 on: 30 March 2011, 18:03:10 »
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something about 30's design I really like, my flat was built in 1935, massive rooms and celling, much better than modern builds.

Office builds are the same, where I work we used to have this:







But they demolished it, the day before it was due to be listed. A bank holiday Monday no less!

Now got this 80's pile of poo where I work:





That was criminal Tunnie!! :o :o :o :'( :'( :'( :'(

To destroy a 1930s building of such magnificent architecture and pure artwork is just not right, but thank God some of those buildings have been saved.  It is such a pity that your Firestone  was not so lucky.  So close, yet so far! :'( :'( :'( :'(
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« Reply #10 on: 30 March 2011, 18:04:17 »
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« Reply #11 on: 30 March 2011, 22:20:07 »
Flipping through a friends pictures from the 2008 Amelia Concours D'Elegance in Florida and saw this:

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« Reply #12 on: 31 March 2011, 10:09:15 »
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Flipping through a friends pictures from the 2008 Amelia Concours D'Elegance in Florida and saw this:



Smashing!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

That is streamlining in the full Aaron!!  Well found :y :y :y :y

Anyone know the history of that car? :-? :-? :-?
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« Reply #13 on: 31 March 2011, 12:20:35 »
There was only the one shot of that car, sadly, and no title to tell what it may be..

I just realised he goes every year, though, so have some more streamliner pictures:

From 2005:

'Type 57 C' owned by Ralph Lauren:




Scarab:



No clue what this is!



2009:



Not 'streamlining' but I have to include it since they're one of my all time favourite cars:

(I'm building the new garage purely so I can build a replica, though I think pictured is a slab-side 289, and I'd rather a 427 S/C replica)

The decade that aerodynamics forgot:





And from 2010:



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« Reply #14 on: 31 March 2011, 15:28:40 »
Wow Aaron! :o :o :o :o

Now you are finding some even more beautiful beauties!! :D :D :D :y :y :y :y :y :y :y

What style and elegance most of them have 8-) 8-) 8-)
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