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[millwall]

Little Miss Vamps school sell eggs, they have their own hens and the eggs are only 50p for half a dozen, there is a waiting list....

We live in a quite rural location and there are lots of sources of local free range eggs at a fair price, though dearer than the supermarket battery eggs..

Therein lies the problem. A potential shortfall of 83m eggs/day is rather serious, IMHO.

you are joking surely how is it rather serious?

Take a look at the ingredients of many of the groceries you buy and you'd be surprised at just how many contain eggs. 83m/day is a lot of eggs andthey would have to come from somewhere. 

fair comment nick  to be honest i didnt really give it much thought before posting    very true though eggs are used in a fair bit of food  and prices will rise   yet again we are being shafted by the eu

[Entwood]

Little Miss Vamps school sell eggs, they have their own hens and the eggs are only 50p for half a dozen, there is a waiting list....

We live in a quite rural location and there are lots of sources of local free range eggs at a fair price, though dearer than the supermarket battery eggs..

Therein lies the problem. A potential shortfall of 83m eggs/day is rather serious, IMHO.

you are joking surely how is it rather serious?

Take a look at the ingredients of many of the groceries you buy and you'd be surprised at just how many contain eggs. 83m/day is a lot of eggs andthey would have to come from somewhere. 

Probably from 83 m chickens at a guess ... 

[mrgreen]

Little Miss Vamps school sell eggs, they have their own hens and the eggs are only 50p for half a dozen, there is a waiting list....

We live in a quite rural location and there are lots of sources of local free range eggs at a fair price, though dearer than the supermarket battery eggs..

Therein lies the problem. A potential shortfall of 83m eggs/day is rather serious, IMHO.

you are joking surely how is it rather serious?

Take a look at the ingredients of many of the groceries you buy and you'd be surprised at just how many contain eggs. 83m/day is a lot of eggs andthey would have to come from somewhere. 

Probably from 83 m chickens at a guess ... 

[Nickbat]

Yes, it may seem a trivial subject - even comedic - until you consider the true amount of 83 million eggs per day. Eggs are used in so many different foodstuffs, from confectionery, cakes & baking, through to sauces like mayonaisse.

Just sayin'. 

[Martin_1962]

Battery farming is cruel - I am glad to see the end of it

[Banjax]

Battery farming is cruel - I am glad to see the end of it

i'm always astonished that so many people, given the choice, would rather save a couple of pence at the expense of the welfare of the chickens that gave them their eggs - humans eh - couldnt give a flying fek about anyone but themselves 

[Dishevelled Den]

Yes, I agree that trying to improve the welfare of animals used in this and other like industries is a good thing – indeed, on the basis of humane concern for those animals above all else - but like so much of the output from the EU where the application of proposed legislation is concerned....

16.These options for enforcement are currently being considered by the Commission. The Commission agreed to continue the dialogue with Competent Authorities and all the sectors concerned in order to ensure the proper enforcement of the legislation. Four working groups have also been convened to continue the discussion on this issue with Member States and interested parties.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmselect/cmenvfru/writev/egg/egg19.htm

....there seems to be a cost in terms of yet more bureaucracy to bolster the already bloated EU super-state.

Is it any wonder why our financial contributions to this legislative behemoth will have to rise in the coming months?

[Lazydocker]

I must admit, we moved away from battery eggs a long time ago... Luckily, unless you want to buy cheap ones, we have a farm shop about 10 miles away, where we do all our veg shopping, who sell free range eggs cheap enough

TBH, we now use the farm shop for all the veg and eggs, a local butcher for all the meat and only visit the supermarket for tins (etc) and emergencies. Even started using the milkman for some of our stuff because he's cheaper than Tesco The meat and veg, although slightly more expensive than buying from Tesco, is better quality and doesn't go off within a few days Plus, a lot of the veg is locally grown

[Lazydocker]

Battery farming is cruel - I am glad to see the end of it

i'm always astonished that so many people, given the choice, would rather save a couple of pence at the expense of the welfare of the chickens that gave them their eggs - humans eh - couldnt give a flying blank about anyone but themselves 

I feel the same way about the cheap chickens available at supermarkets

[cleggy]

We were so disgusted with the conditions that battery hens are kept in, and seem not much better with the new legistration that we only bought Free Range, but the description applied to eggs are dubious ( Caged, Barn, Free Range). The age of the eggs is also suspect.

The solution was to keep three hens, they are well cared for, fed on quality pellets, and corn, plus they get the veggie scraps. They are able to free range in the part of the garden,  are a delight to watch with their antics, and easy to look after.

We are rewarded with three fresh eggs every day, which look, and taste better than any you buy.
Daz knows

We do sell any surplus to friends at £1 a half dozen, which hardly covers tha cost of the straw, but it is better than having excess.

[Nickbat]

I agree with what people say about battery farming; indeed, I made that plain in my first post. But the fact remains that we face a large shortfall of eggs and the question is where will that shortfall be made up from? My gut feeling is that egges will be imported either from outside the EU, where no laws exist with regard to hen welfare, or from those countries within the EU that ignore the ruling. Potentially, therefore, 100m hens get slaughtered, but battery farming continues - even expands - elsewhere. The problem isn't eradicated, just moved elsewhere - to our cost. That's what I mean about "not thought through".   

[Mysteryman]

I said to my missus "Jeez, they'll talk about anything on this forum, it'll be the price of eggs next........"

[cleggy]

I agree with what people say about battery farming; indeed, I made that plain in my first post. But the fact remains that we face a large shortfall of eggs and the question is where will that shortfall be made up from? My gut feeling is that egges will be imported either from outside the EU, where no laws exist with regard to hen welfare, or from those countries within the EU that ignore the ruling. Potentially, therefore, 100m hens get slaughtered, but battery farming continues - even expands - elsewhere. The problem isn't eradicated, just moved elsewhere - to our cost. That's what I mean about "not thought through".   

I agree with you, we could always ban imported eggs, OOPS part of the EU we can't

[Kevin Wood]

This is a fundamental problem with all EU meddling that they just don't appear to understand.

As much as they try to stifle "bad " things in the EU, all that actually do is stifle commerce in the EU, upset the balance of trade and move the problem elsewhere in the world.

It's exactly the same with CO2 emissions, etc.. Tax emissions in the EU without controlling imports and the energy-heavy industries just move to China, etc. where they can't build fossil fuelled power stations fast enough.

The EU is just one big self-licking lollipop.

Kevin

[Martin_1962]

We were so disgusted with the conditions that battery hens are kept in, and seem not much better with the new legistration that we only bought Free Range, but the description applied to eggs are dubious ( Caged, Barn, Free Range). The age of the eggs is also suspect.

The solution was to keep three hens, they are well cared for, fed on quality pellets, and corn, plus they get the veggie scraps. They are able to free range in the part of the garden,  are a delight to watch with their antics, and easy to look after.

We are rewarded with three fresh eggs every day, which look, and taste better than any you buy.
Daz knows

We do sell any surplus to friends at £1 a half dozen, which hardly covers tha cost of the straw, but it is better than having excess.

Sue wants to get chickens!