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They take us for idiots....
« on: 09 May 2011, 22:34:09 »

Climate change will disrupt wi-fi connections, cause regular power failures and lead railway lines to buckle unless Britain spends billions of pounds, Caroline Spelman, the Environment Secretary has warned.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/8502620/Climate-change-could-disrupt-wi-fi-and-hit-power-supply.html

Huh?

So wi-fi is disrupted in Africa, Arizona, Australia? Nope. Just more unscientific drivel heaped on a gullible public.  >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #1 on: 09 May 2011, 22:51:02 »

Seems that Caro is on-board and fully signed-up then. 8-)

Isn't it oppsing great?
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« Reply #2 on: 09 May 2011, 22:57:03 »

Never ceases to amaze me, the shit that falls from the mouths of Ministers from this cluster opps of a government.

True heirs to the maniacs that were New labour.
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« Reply #3 on: 09 May 2011, 23:19:42 »

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So wi-fi is disrupted in Africa, Arizona, Australia? Nope. Just more unscientific drivel heaped on a gullible public.  >:( >:( >:(
Weather does have an impact on how well radio waves travel, and it is VERY easy to wipe out a wi-fi signal (lean over your router and watch the signal drop on every device connected). However, the conditions would have to be extreme to say the least to achieve what nanny says will happen.


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« Reply #4 on: 09 May 2011, 23:38:23 »

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So wi-fi is disrupted in Africa, Arizona, Australia? Nope. Just more unscientific drivel heaped on a gullible public.  >:( >:( >:(
Weather does have an impact on how well radio waves travel, and it is VERY easy to wipe out a wi-fi signal (lean over your router and watch the signal drop on every device connected). However, the conditions would have to be extreme to say the least to achieve what nanny says will happen.



Indeed, very extreme.

I liked this comment on WUWT:

"Excuse me? Anyone want to explain how 0.2°C change in average global temp is going to effect the RF of a WiFi signal? This 25 year veteran of Space Communications for NASA (which includes all wavelengths, environments, distances and error correction/detection options) wants to hear a valid and defensible theory on how air temp effects EM for WiFi distances."

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/09/uk-climate-resilient-infrastructure-billions-needed-to-combat-climate-change-effects-on-wi-fi-signals/#comments

I haven't found a single comment supporting Spelmans's tosh. Not on WUWT, nor on the Telegraph site.   ::) ::)
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« Reply #5 on: 09 May 2011, 23:45:50 »

climate change might slightly affect radio wave propagation, but the effect will be that small and that gradual you will have compensated for it a long time before it is noticable.

Why do we keep electing clowns who know nothing about what they are supposed to be the minister for ?

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« Reply #6 on: 09 May 2011, 23:49:23 »

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climate change might slightly affect radio wave propagation, but the effect will be that small and that gradual you will have compensated for it a long time before it is noticable.

Why do we keep electing clowns who know nothing ?

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Fixed that for you Ken. ;D
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« Reply #7 on: 10 May 2011, 00:05:01 »

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Why do we keep electing clowns who know nothing about what they are supposed to be the minister for ?
Probably the same reason the whingers disappear when given the chance to do more than verbally complain.
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Re: They take us for idiots....
« Reply #8 on: 10 May 2011, 08:28:18 »

yes, Britain takes slight changes in weather in its stride - I'm quite sure a heatwave would have about as much effect on our transport infrastructure as a few inches of snow do  ::)
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Why do we keep electing clowns who know nothing about what they are supposed to be the minister for ?

Probably the same reason the whingers disappear when given the chance to do more than verbally complain.



That's the one Martian – given that most turn-outs at voting time are less than 50% (sometimes much less) is it any wonder droogs like this manage to get a seat at Westminster?
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Why do we keep electing clowns who know nothing about what they are supposed to be the minister for ?

Probably the same reason the whingers disappear when given the chance to do more than verbally complain.



That's the one Martian – given that most turn-outs at voting time are less than 50% (sometimes much less) is it any wonder droogs like this manage to get a seat at Westminster?


good point - i think voting should be compulsory - no shows are a bunch of lazy, breakless halfwits who have no idea of the sheer importance of suffrage and what it represents  :(

funnily enough most of the idiots who dont vote are ironically the most vocal in complaining about how the country's run  ;D
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« Reply #11 on: 10 May 2011, 09:25:03 »

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Why do we keep electing clowns who know nothing about what they are supposed to be the minister for ?

Probably the same reason the whingers disappear when given the chance to do more than verbally complain.



That's the one Martian – given that most turn-outs at voting time are less than 50% (sometimes much less) is it any wonder droogs like this manage to get a seat at Westminster?


Yes, Den, but one needs to consider the gulf between indifference and apathy.

Many are indifferent, taking the (not unreasonable) view that whoever gets into power from the three main parties, promises will be broken and the country will continue to be governed in much the same way as before. This thinking leads to the view that casting a vote is pointless as no real alternative is on offer.

Apathy is what viewers of Eastenders suffer from. they have no interest and no knowledge of politics.

I put myself in the former group, though, as yet, i have not failed to vote.

I think each ballot papr should have a "None of the above" option and, if that option wins, the election has to be rerun with fresh candidates. :y :y      
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« Reply #12 on: 10 May 2011, 09:32:31 »

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Yes, Den, but one needs to consider the gulf between indifference and apathy.

Many are indifferent, taking the (not unreasonable) view that whoever gets into power from the three main parties, promises will be broken and the country will continue to be governed in much the same way as before. This thinking leads to the view that casting a vote is pointless as no real alternative is on offer.

Apathy is what viewers of Eastenders suffer from. they have no interest and no knowledge of politics.

I put myself in the former group, though, as yet, i have not failed to vote.

I think each ballot papr should have a "None of the above" option and, if that option wins, the election has to be rerun with fresh candidates. :y :y      


Yes, that difference between the the two groups you mention should indeed be recognised and there is (in my view at least) an imperitive for electoral reform - but not of the AV or STV or Additional Member flavour.
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« Reply #13 on: 10 May 2011, 10:20:17 »

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Many are indifferent, taking the (not unreasonable) view that whoever gets into power from the three main parties, promises will be broken and the country will continue to be governed in much the same way as before. This thinking leads to the view that casting a vote is pointless as no real alternative is on offer.

Exactly the group I fall into - I honestly don't believe it matters one jot who gets voted in (out of the main three parties, anyway) as ultimately they're all about as useful as teets on a bull. Granted I wouldn't want the extreme outliers getting voted in due to indifference on the part of the rest of us as I'm pretty sure the BNP, Greens, etc would have us all even more screwed in short order, but..

Must be honest, I voted in the last general elections but outside of that..

If voting were made mandatory then there really needs to be a box to tick that says "I wouldn't urinate on any of you if you were on fire so I'm voting for the inmates of Broadmoor, on the basis that I think they can do a better job"...
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« Reply #14 on: 10 May 2011, 16:33:09 »

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If voting were made mandatory then there really needs to be a box to tick that says "I wouldn't urinate on any of you if you were on fire so I'm voting for the inmates of Broadmoor, on the basis that I think they can do a better job"...
Aaron for PM  :y
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