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[Martin_1962]

I don't trust ANY CD without the CD-Digital Audio logo all of the big record companies are out to install crap!

I thought the rookit-infected ones did? Wasn't that what all the fuss was about?

Mind you I would not have wanted to import any of Columbia musics rather poor selection.

I think it was something like Celine Dion or other piffle like that!

PMSL. I belong to a Hi-Fi forum and one of the rules in their AUP states no Celine Dion.

Kevin

Have a look very few CDs now have the logo as they have autostart to TRY to prevent ripping.

First CD I ever ripped I ripped simply because the DVD player I used as a CD player could only handle CD-DA and not the CD ROM shite now prevalent.

My current DVD player can handle anything not high def - CD DA, MP3 CD, DVD Video, DVD Audio, SA-CD.

Anything HiDef uses the console.

[TheBoy]

I do have to say have you actually used MD?

Yes. What a PITA it was too. Nowhere to play the little tinkers.

I've had CD Changers in every car I've owned since getting my GTE back in 1992, and obviously CD Players in my home since about 1989. CDRs were affordable by around '94 ish.  Why would I (or anyone else) want to buy into a proprietry, incompatible, expensive, locked system, when a cheaper, clearly defined, common technology did the job better? And its still partly Sony, for those who must worship Mr Idei

Isn't Android better than IOS?

Tunnie wouldn't agree, because he is an Apple fanboy

[Martin_1962]

I do have to say have you actually used MD?

Yes. What a PITA it was too. Nowhere to play the little tinkers.

I've had CD Changers in every car I've owned since getting my GTE back in 1992, and obviously CD Players in my home since about 1989. CDRs were affordable by around '94 ish.  Why would I (or anyone else) want to buy into a proprietry, incompatible, expensive, locked system, when a cheaper, clearly defined, common technology did the job better? And its still partly Sony, for those who must worship Mr Idei

Isn't Android better than IOS?

Tunnie wouldn't agree, because he is an Apple fanboy

I had my first CD player mid 1980s, but it was not very good, replaced with DVD in late 1990s.

Bought MD not long after the DVD as it was cheap.

CD-R decks were expensive and I was still on cassette in cars.

I bought MD as it fitted the need I had of it, not because of any brands.

[Debs.]

Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.

On the subject of moribund formats:
I still have my Elcaset recorder/player (the huge 'Technics RS 7500').....maybe it`ll be retro enough on-day; to be valuable.

[TheBoy]

Bought MD not long after the DVD as it was cheap.

CD-R decks were expensive and I was still on cassette in cars.

But you still had to replace the car stereos to play MD, so surely it would have been better to buy CD Players for the car. You could have still bought Fony, seeing as you worship them, and could still ave had all the annoying bleeps

[Martin_1962]

Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.

On the subject of moribund formats:
I still have my Elcaset recorder/player (the huge 'Technics RS 7500').....maybe it`ll be retro enough on-day; to be valuable.

They are supposed to sound really good.

As to valuable some Beta VCRs fetch over £500 S/H, seen a Sanyo HiFi go for £500

[Kevin Wood]

Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.

On the subject of moribund formats:
I still have my Elcaset recorder/player (the huge 'Technics RS 7500').....maybe it`ll be retro enough on-day; to be valuable.

They are supposed to sound really good.

As to valuable some Beta VCRs fetch over £500 S/H, seen a Sanyo HiFi go for £500

You really don't see a lot of elcaset machines, so I'm sure they would be interesting to collectors.

I was reminded how good tape could be a few months back. Walked into a room at a hi-fi show  and sat and listened for a while to a system that sounded absolutely sublime. Then realised the source was a little Nagra reel-to-reel tape deck.

Kevin

[Debs.]

Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.

On the subject of moribund formats:
I still have my Elcaset recorder/player (the huge 'Technics RS 7500').....maybe it`ll be retro enough on-day; to be valuable.

They are supposed to sound really good.

As to valuable some Beta VCRs fetch over £500 S/H, seen a Sanyo HiFi go for £500

You really don't see a lot of elcaset machines, so I'm sure they would be interesting to collectors.

I was reminded how good tape could be a few months back. Walked into a room at a hi-fi show  and sat and listened for a while to a system that sounded absolutely sublime. Then realised the source was a little Nagra reel-to-reel tape deck.

Kevin

Maybe Ebay beckons then, Kevin.......
The Sony FeCr loaded Elcasets did have singularly transparent and rounded 'sound'; the three heads enabled direct/off-tape comparisons which were recorded without any of the artefacts of using Mr. Dolby`s compression technologies (just the headroom and low-crosstalk afforded by the wider format`s head/track separation with the machine having a mahoosive 1500 gram motor-flywheel for pitch/speed consistency).
.....as so-often before with 'format wars' : mass-popularity won out over engineering innovation!

[Martin_1962]

Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.

On the subject of moribund formats:
I still have my Elcaset recorder/player (the huge 'Technics RS 7500').....maybe it`ll be retro enough on-day; to be valuable.

They are supposed to sound really good.

As to valuable some Beta VCRs fetch over £500 S/H, seen a Sanyo HiFi go for £500

You really don't see a lot of elcaset machines, so I'm sure they would be interesting to collectors.

I was reminded how good tape could be a few months back. Walked into a room at a hi-fi show  and sat and listened for a while to a system that sounded absolutely sublime. Then realised the source was a little Nagra reel-to-reel tape deck.

Kevin

Maybe Ebay beckons then, Kevin.......
The Sony FeCr loaded Elcasets did have singularly transparent and rounded 'sound'; the three heads enabled direct/off-tape comparisons which were recorded without any of the artefacts of using Mr. Dolby`s compression technologies (just the headroom and low-crosstalk afforded by the wider format`s head/track separation with the machine having a mahoosive 1500 gram motor-flywheel for pitch/speed consistency).
.....as so-often before with 'format wars' : mass-popularity won out over engineering innovation!

That is how the Beta fans feel.

And I have one of the few fully working Sanyo Beta HiFi decks - I used to use it as an audio recorder as well.

80dB dynamic range

[Banjax]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13256817

the implications of this for the future of the 'net are beginning to dawn - perhaps we'll see the whole system brought down........luckily i dont really rely on it but most businesses are heavily tied in - especially banks who are determined to get rid of expensive high street branches.

the only way to secure your details online is to not go online   

[Martian]

CDRs were affordable by around '94 ish.

£15 a pop back in 95 for a 74 min CD-R, and no such thing as buffer underrun, so when the screensaver kicked in halfway through that dizzy 2x burn speed that was another £15 down the drain.

I was reminded how good tape could be a few months back. Walked into a room at a hi-fi show  and sat and listened for a while to a system that sounded absolutely sublime. Then realised the source was a little Nagra reel-to-reel tape deck.

Kevin

Still have my old Tascam Portastudio here in daily use (well, the occasional weekend use now when we have a jam session), there's something about the sound that CD (or any digital medium) simply cannot produce and probably never will.


Admin Edit: Sentence deletion, hopefully for obvious reasons

[aaronjb]

the only way to secure your details online is to not go online   

As most people in security would tell you; the only secure system is one that's not plugged in to anything, locked in a safe, and buried in the ground encased in concrete.

[Kevin Wood]

the only way to secure your details online is to not go online   

As most people in security would tell you; the only secure system is one that's not plugged in to anything, locked in a safe, and buried in the ground encased in concrete.

.. and the next secure one is one that's connected but competently looked-after, as I'd hope most banks are.

Somewhere after that, it seems, comes Playstation Network.

It is back up yet? If I were on it I'd be itching to get online... so I could unsub myself.

[aaronjb]

the only way to secure your details online is to not go online   

As most people in security would tell you; the only secure system is one that's not plugged in to anything, locked in a safe, and buried in the ground encased in concrete.

.. and the next secure one is one that's connected but competently looked-after, as I'd hope most banks are.

Somewhere after that, it seems, comes Playstation Network.

It is back up yet? If I were on it I'd be itching to get online... so I could unsub myself.

I think everything on the internet comes between banks and the PSN 

[edit] With the possible exception of the Lush cosmetics website; they not only 'lost' everyone's names & addresses but credit card numbers and so on in the middle of last year. Whoops.

[Banjax]

the only way to secure your details online is to not go online   

As most people in security would tell you; the only secure system is one that's not plugged in to anything, locked in a safe, and buried in the ground encased in concrete.

.. and the next secure one is one that's connected but competently looked-after, as I'd hope most banks are.

Somewhere after that, it seems, comes Playstation Network.

It is back up yet? If I were on it I'd be itching to get online... so I could unsub myself.

not unless it went up today, to be fair to Sony I think it was malicious hackers determined to bring them down as they didnt like Sony forcing users to use only their OS, not many systems could withstand a determined full on expert assault, maybe it'll be a good thing for online security in the future....in the meantime i'll just shoot americans in the face on 360