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Nickbat

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A sad story, but you need to read it
« on: 06 December 2010, 20:09:42 »

I feel such sympathy for the single dad in this case. All he wants is his autistic son back and all his autistic son wants is to be home with his dad, but no, the State knows best.

http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/the-orwellian-present-%E2%80%93-never-mind-the-future/

Barstewards.  >:(
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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #1 on: 06 December 2010, 20:16:20 »

Words fail me" >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #2 on: 06 December 2010, 20:20:20 »

This case (and worryingly; yet-another similar case) has recently received some favourable coverage on Welsh BBC regional news.
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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #3 on: 06 December 2010, 20:25:10 »

that is absolutely shocking.
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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #4 on: 06 December 2010, 20:30:13 »

if these are truly the facts (all the facts) then the actions of the borough are truly appauling. If you feel as I do then sign the petition. The least that should happen then is a review of the case.
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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #5 on: 06 December 2010, 20:31:13 »

Bloody typical Big Brother attitude of the Nanny State, presuming it is the truth of course. We've all signed it here :(
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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #6 on: 06 December 2010, 20:32:09 »

I havent felt this angry for a long time. I was sick to my stomach reading that. I have signed the petition.
This country badly needs a huge dollop of common sense dropped on it.
The Orwellian undercurrent which runs through the system which causes these types of events is frightening.

 :o :'( >:(
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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #7 on: 06 December 2010, 20:41:33 »

My son is on the autistic spectrum and things like this make my blood boil.
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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #8 on: 06 December 2010, 20:45:35 »

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I feel such sympathy for the single dad in this case. All he wants is his autistic son back and all his autistic son wants is to be home with his dad, but no, the State knows best.

http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/the-orwellian-present-%E2%80%93-never-mind-the-future/

Barstewards.  >:(


A sad but all too familiar tale of the fundamental disconnect between good sense and due bureaucratic process.

In this sector of state bureaucracy there are many well documented procedures but precious little regulation to ensure the proportionate application of them.

No state body should have such all-encompassing power to behave in this totalitarian way.

From the perspective of what is best for this young man, there may well be compelling reasons – obvious to properly trained professionals - for this level of assessment, but should this be the case, I would have thought a full frank and open process would go a long way to reassure the loved ones of such people that their charges were being treated in a responsible, necessary and compassionate manner.
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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #9 on: 06 December 2010, 20:47:29 »

Also signed :y :y

We know just how good social workers are, don't we (baby P) >:( >:(
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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #10 on: 06 December 2010, 20:57:43 »

shocking     signed :y  lets hope for a good outcome
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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #11 on: 06 December 2010, 21:43:58 »

I myself work in a psychiatric hospital. I work with many individual people. From extreme autistic, sociopathic to the wide band of schizophrenic disorders and much more. Both male and female. Some have personality disorders too complex to diagnose. ::)

We have people who are sectioned under section three of the mental health act 1983, those who are not 'sectioned' (like Stephen) are classed as voluntary patients............. ::) ::)

This story strikes me cold. I know the speed the system moves at, slow is an understatement, and I also know how patients can respond to being in the unfamiliar and clinical surrounding of a psychiatric hospital long term. It doesn't look too good for him.

So I sincerely wish Stephen the very best of luck with going home to his dad. :y :y

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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #12 on: 06 December 2010, 22:14:06 »

Sadly "yet again" everyone's an expert. You want to help but feel helpless being unable to do so.
    If i were a solicitor i'd represent Stephen & his father free of charge.   Outrageous. >:( :'(.
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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #13 on: 06 December 2010, 22:33:37 »

Whilst I have no factual backing to this post, I feel I should add it anyway.

It is quite probable that those members of staff who were 'tapped' on the shoulder have acted in the way they were 'told' to.  I'm sure these places of residence have very keen guidelines on what to do when physical contact is made, no matter how small, by a 'patient'.

I felt that this report made the staff (normal working people) who look after many, many 'patients' look bad.  I hope I'm not wrong here, but less blame should be put on the ones who are reporting the patients behaviour.  It's the person(s) who interpret the reports who should be held accountable for this potential breach of human rights.

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Re: A sad story, but you need to read it
« Reply #14 on: 06 December 2010, 23:25:22 »

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Whilst I have no factual backing to this post, I feel I should add it anyway.

It is quite probable that those members of staff who were 'tapped' on the shoulder have acted in the way they were 'told' to.  I'm sure these places of residence have very keen guidelines on what to do when physical contact is made, no matter how small, by a 'patient'.

I felt that this report made the staff (normal working people) who look after many, many 'patients' look bad.  I hope I'm not wrong here, but less blame should be put on the ones who are reporting the patients behaviour.  It's the person(s) who interpret the reports who should be held accountable for this potential breach of human rights.

I know where you're coming from in saying that but my understanding is that our modern working world is absolutely full of workers who know that they can't do their job (in this case care for someone properly) if they follow the edicts passed down from the new-order management.  Many are stuck in Catch22 situations and have become quite adept at working out how to do their jobs properly AND buck the system satisfactorily.  'Targets' is a case in point.

I've just watched the Ian Hislop programme on tele and the guy from Barnardo's was arguing for breaking up families it would seem.  I think it ought to be more last resort than these people think.

It makes you want to bang your head on a wall when you see someone coping really well and scuppered by some pillocks who know less. >:( (That's angry by the way!)
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