Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Search the maintenance guides for answers to 99.999% of Omega questions

Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Down

Author Topic: Le Mans  (Read 1951 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Nickbat

  • Guest
Le Mans
« on: 11 June 2011, 19:57:21 »
Live feed here:

http://justin.tv/freddy49_lemans

 :y :y

Freezes a bit, though.  :(
Logged

Kevin Wood

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Alton, Hampshire
  • Posts: 36424
    • Jaguar XE 25t, Westfield
    • View Profile
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #1 on: 11 June 2011, 19:59:53 »
Already watching it. 8-)

Pining for the place, though. :'( I must go next year. :(
Logged
Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/

henryd

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • west cornwall
  • Posts: 8806
  • VW Touareg R5 tdi Auto
    • View Profile
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #2 on: 11 June 2011, 20:40:52 »
McNish's car looks a bit sick though    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/13738359.stm
Logged
other rides 
  mk3 Volvo v70 2.0 Diesel ,Citroen C2, Pug 306 cabriolet
  Sterling elite trekker pikey wagon

Shimmy

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • St Albans
  • Posts: 447
    • Omega 3.2 Elite
    • View Profile
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #3 on: 11 June 2011, 21:19:31 »
I saw McNish crash his car live, big big off.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BghAdbFz_U[/media]

Unfortunate racing incident but very lucky that no one was hurt, the Audi was so close to clearing the barrier and wiping out a few photographers.
Logged
Budget tyres, false economy.

Nickbat

  • Guest
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #4 on: 11 June 2011, 21:46:49 »
Second Audi (No.1) car in a heavy crash. Looks nasty.
 :( :( :( :(
Logged

Nickbat

  • Guest
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #5 on: 11 June 2011, 22:15:59 »
Driver (Mike Rockenfeller) got out of wreckage and got over barrier under his own steam, so hopefully OK. Amazing though that this crash was so similar to the first (tangled with slower Ferrari when overtaking).
« Last Edit: 11 June 2011, 22:45:46 by Nickbat »
Logged

Kevin Wood

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Alton, Hampshire
  • Posts: 36424
    • Jaguar XE 25t, Westfield
    • View Profile
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #6 on: 11 June 2011, 22:32:46 »
Hmm. some very dodgy overtaking of the GT cars this year. :o LMPs used to just drive round them off the racing line but it seems this year their setup hasn't afforded them enough grip to do that so they're just barging through with the inevitable consequences. :(
Logged
Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/

Shimmy

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • St Albans
  • Posts: 447
    • Omega 3.2 Elite
    • View Profile
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #7 on: 11 June 2011, 22:42:45 »
Quote
Hmm. some very dodgy overtaking of the GT cars this year. :o LMPs used to just drive round them off the racing line but it seems this year their setup hasn't afforded them enough grip to do that so they're just barging through with the inevitable consequences. :(

I'd say the first crash was 50/50 and a racing incident.

Second one though the fault lies solely with the Ferrari imho.  How could he not see that Audi?!
Logged
Budget tyres, false economy.

Nickbat

  • Guest
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #8 on: 11 June 2011, 22:45:03 »
Quote
Hmm. some very dodgy overtaking of the GT cars this year. :o LMPs used to just drive round them off the racing line but it seems this year their setup hasn't afforded them enough grip to do that so they're just barging through with the inevitable consequences. :(


Yes, Kevin, you're right. At the drivers' meeting they were told to hold the racing line and that it was down to the faster cars to figure a way round. Also, I heard someone say that the LED HIDs on the Audis are so bright that they can disorientate other drivers.  :o :o
« Last Edit: 11 June 2011, 22:46:15 by Nickbat »
Logged

Kevin Wood

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Alton, Hampshire
  • Posts: 36424
    • Jaguar XE 25t, Westfield
    • View Profile
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #9 on: 11 June 2011, 22:54:26 »
Quote
Quote
Hmm. some very dodgy overtaking of the GT cars this year. :o LMPs used to just drive round them off the racing line but it seems this year their setup hasn't afforded them enough grip to do that so they're just barging through with the inevitable consequences. :(

I'd say the first crash was 50/50 and a racing incident.

Second one though the fault lies solely with the Ferrari imho.  How could he not see that Audi?!

Depends, IMHO. :-/ Yes, he would undoubtedly know he was behind but could he be sure how far behind, how fast he was closing and which side he was going round? Not sure.

Slower cars are briefed to stay on the racing line, not to yield in any way to overtaking cars. The faster cars in theory should have enough in hand to pass them off the racing line, and on the occasions I've been they have had a staggering advantage in grip. A GT car can be negotiating a chicane on the ragged edge and an LMP will just drive round it like it was parked.

The footage didn't show a wide enough view to say for sure, but what if the Ferrari was following the racing line as he moved over? The LMP dived into a gap that was predictably going to be full of Ferrari very shortly.

The LMPs have had their power restricted to slow them up. I suspect that it has meant they are taking bigger risks to pass the GT cars. Unintended consequences...?
Logged
Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/

Nickbat

  • Guest
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #10 on: 11 June 2011, 22:56:38 »
Quote
Quote
Quote
Hmm. some very dodgy overtaking of the GT cars this year. :o LMPs used to just drive round them off the racing line but it seems this year their setup hasn't afforded them enough grip to do that so they're just barging through with the inevitable consequences. :(

I'd say the first crash was 50/50 and a racing incident.

Second one though the fault lies solely with the Ferrari imho.  How could he not see that Audi?!

Depends, IMHO. :-/ Yes, he would undoubtedly know he was behind but could he be sure how far behind, how fast he was closing and which side he was going round? Not sure.

Slower cars are briefed to stay on the racing line, not to yield in any way to overtaking cars. The faster cars in theory should have enough in hand to pass them off the racing line, and on the occasions I've been they have had a staggering advantage in grip. A GT car can be negotiating a chicane on the ragged edge and an LMP will just drive round it like it was parked.

The footage didn't show a wide enough view to say for sure, but what if the Ferrari was following the racing line as he moved over? The LMP dived into a gap that was predictably going to be full of Ferrari very shortly.

The LMPs have had their power restricted to slow them up. I suspect that it has meant they are taking bigger risks to pass the GT cars. Unintended consequences...?

Henri Pescarolo just said that the very bright HIDs make it very difficult for cars in front to judge the distance. Is that car 5 metres behind or 50 metres behind?   :-?
« Last Edit: 11 June 2011, 22:57:13 by Nickbat »
Logged

Chris_H

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • E London/Essex UK
  • Posts: 1716
    • Jag XF Portfolio S 3.0D
    • View Profile
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #11 on: 11 June 2011, 23:14:13 »
Quote
Quote
Hmm. some very dodgy overtaking of the GT cars this year. :o LMPs used to just drive round them off the racing line but it seems this year their setup hasn't afforded them enough grip to do that so they're just barging through with the inevitable consequences. :(


Yes, Kevin, you're right. At the drivers' meeting they were told to hold the racing line and that it was down to the faster cars to figure a way round. Also, I heard someone say that the LED HIDs on the Audis are so bright that they can disorientate other drivers.  :o :o
Not sure they can be LED and HID
« Last Edit: 11 June 2011, 23:14:48 by ChrisH174 »
Logged
First Vauxhall - PABX Cresta; Previous, previous Vauxhall - 3.0 12v Senator CD; Previous Vauxhall Omega Elite 3.0V6 Saloon Auto

Kevin Wood

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Alton, Hampshire
  • Posts: 36424
    • Jaguar XE 25t, Westfield
    • View Profile
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #12 on: 11 June 2011, 23:18:09 »
Quote
Not sure they can be LED and HID
Pretty sure they'll be HID. If they were LED there's be a bloke walking along with a candle in front of each car to help the driver out. ;D
Logged
Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/

Nickbat

  • Guest
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #13 on: 11 June 2011, 23:25:12 »
Quote
Quote
Not sure they can be LED and HID
Pretty sure they'll be HID. If they were LED there's be a bloke walking along with a candle in front of each car to help the driver out. ;D

They are LEDs, Kevin.

"Audi has taken its LED technolgoy one step further with the innovative Audi R18 TDI: the new LMP1 is the first Le Mans sports car with full LED headlights."

http://www.automotivedesign.eu.com/article/33672/LED-technology-to-benefit-Audi-Le-Mans-challenger.aspx
Logged

Kevin Wood

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Alton, Hampshire
  • Posts: 36424
    • Jaguar XE 25t, Westfield
    • View Profile
Re: Le Mans
« Reply #14 on: 11 June 2011, 23:52:23 »
Quote
Quote
Quote
Not sure they can be LED and HID
Pretty sure they'll be HID. If they were LED there's be a bloke walking along with a candle in front of each car to help the driver out. ;D

They are LEDs, Kevin.

"Audi has taken its LED technolgoy one step further with the innovative Audi R18 TDI: the new LMP1 is the first Le Mans sports car with full LED headlights."

http://www.automotivedesign.eu.com/article/33672/LED-technology-to-benefit-Audi-Le-Mans-challenger.aspx

Wow.  :o That does surprise me.
Logged
Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/
Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Up
« previous next »
 

Page created in 0.009 seconds with 16 queries.