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Martin_1962

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Boys pulled out of school
« on: 21 July 2011, 09:11:53 »

Pulled them out yesterday as the schol is useless.

Why?

Bullying and lack of interest from the staff.

Final straw - Jack on red for defending his identical twin brother and the bully being believed over Jack.

The bully is allowed to pull peoples trousers down, wave his willie about and hit other children.

Mine are often victims and the teachers are NEVER intersted.

So we said SELF DEFENCE

Now as far as this school is concerned that it the worlds worst crime, to me it is a vital anti bullying technique (worked for me at school - they leave you alone after being hurt).

Here goes

Jasks trousers pulled down, Alex was hit, Jack hit the bully, Alex really angry and upset, Jack and bully went to headbeanstackermaster (have some info. on this*) headbeanstacker told Jack that the bullying kid may be naughty but never lies.


* A few years ago used to stack shelves at a supermarket with one of the parent governers.

BTW they start secondary school in the autumn.
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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #1 on: 21 July 2011, 10:36:17 »

Sounds like a typical response in todays namby pamby world Martin. Yet it is always the victims that seem to be worse off (as in your case)
I dont have kids or knowledge of the education system however, is there not a higher authority you could complain to?
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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #2 on: 21 July 2011, 10:47:52 »

Have had my eldest bullied. He stood up for himself. Then the some of the teachers don't like him. Guess what, he is now for ever in trouble or getting detentions.

teachers don't want to deal with the bullies parents, much easier to deal with the bullied kids parents.
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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #3 on: 21 July 2011, 11:36:40 »

I know exactly what you are experiencing right now Martin.
Our youngest recently defended a schoolfriend (who gets picked on a lot because of his mental health disabilities) who was being beaten by a much bigger child, but because he used his martial arts skills to defend his friend we were told that this was considered "wholly & completely unacceptable" behaviour.

The entire incident was caught on CCTV (which we were shown), and it clearly showed the bully being hit once and once only, and our son then stepping back (which is what the Sabonim teaches) and stopping at that point.
The bully then got up and went to attack our son, at which point he promptly hit the bully with the same "sucker punch" again (the bully didn't go back for 3rd's after that one).

Needless to say both myself & my other half were not impressed, and we made it quite clear to the headteacher that we fully supported the way our son dealt with the situation and saw no wrongdoing whatsoever.
All that achieved however was for us to be told that if our son does one more thing then he will be excluded permanently, and the school also reported us to social services as they considered we needed to go on a "parenting skills" course because we made it clear we would not budge on our stance.

IMO the world has gone plain f*****g mad, and if we don't do something about it shortly (eg, go back to the way it was done in our day), then I don't hold out much hope for the human race  :(
 

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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #4 on: 21 July 2011, 12:27:01 »

I presume the message is violence is not acceptable in life, no matter what's said...?
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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #5 on: 21 July 2011, 12:27:51 »

Had a little problem with my lad when he was 14.

The so called co*k of the school deceided it was my lads turn to be picked on.
The first time my lad went to the teacher and was bollocked for hitting him back  >:(

The second time, he had a go outside school so my lad gave him a good kicking  ;)

The first thing I knew about all this was when so called hard boy's dad came and banged on our door and got lairy with me  :o
Lets just say it never happened again  ;) ;)

Playgrounds are not a nice play too be with kids nowdays but my advise would be ............. if your gonna hit back, do it off the school grounds and always smack the one with the biggest mouth first  :y :y
If you look weak, the bullies will always pick on you no matter what school you go too.

Hope your kids are ok martin
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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #6 on: 21 July 2011, 12:56:10 »

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I know exactly what you are experiencing right now Martin.
Our youngest recently defended a schoolfriend (who gets picked on a lot because of his mental health disabilities) who was being beaten by a much bigger child, but because he used his martial arts skills to defend his friend we were told that this was considered "wholly & completely unacceptable" behaviour.

The entire incident was caught on CCTV (which we were shown), and it clearly showed the bully being hit once and once only, and our son then stepping back (which is what the Sabonim teaches) and stopping at that point.
The bully then got up and went to attack our son, at which point he promptly hit the bully with the same "sucker punch" again (the bully didn't go back for 3rd's after that one).

Needless to say both myself & my other half were not impressed, and we made it quite clear to the headteacher that we fully supported the way our son dealt with the situation and saw no wrongdoing whatsoever.
All that achieved however was for us to be told that if our son does one more thing then he will be excluded permanently, and the school also reported us to social services as they considered we needed to go on a "parenting skills" course because we made it clear we would not budge on our stance.

IMO the world has gone plain f*****g mad, and if we don't do something about it shortly (eg, go back to the way it was done in our day), then I don't hold out much hope for the human race  :(
 

Request a copy of the CCTV footage,then go to the press and contact your local MP. these rather mentalists have all but wrecked this country, and need to be defeated. >:( >:(
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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #7 on: 21 July 2011, 13:00:07 »

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Pulled them out yesterday as the schol is useless.

Why?

Bullying and lack of interest from the staff.

Final straw - Jack on red for defending his identical twin brother and the bully being believed over Jack.

The bully is allowed to pull peoples trousers down, wave his willie about and hit other children.

Mine are often victims and the teachers are NEVER intersted.

So we said SELF DEFENCE

Now as far as this school is concerned that it the worlds worst crime, to me it is a vital anti bullying technique (worked for me at school - they leave you alone after being hurt).

Here goes

Jasks trousers pulled down, Alex was hit, Jack hit the bully, Alex really angry and upset, Jack and bully went to headbeanstackermaster (have some info. on this*) headbeanstacker told Jack that the bullying kid may be naughty but never lies.


* A few years ago used to stack shelves at a supermarket with one of the parent governers.

BTW they start secondary school in the autumn.
IF you are absolutely certain that your kids are the ones telling the truth - fight the school all the way. It could be presented as sexual assualt (pulling down trousers) which the school refuses to deal with.
Bullying at school is a pet hate of mine.It can have a deep seated adverse affect on the bullied child for the rest of their lives. :-X :'( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #8 on: 21 July 2011, 13:14:06 »

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IF you are absolutely certain that your kids are the ones telling the truth - fight the school all the way. It could be presented as sexual assualt (pulling down trousers) which the school refuses to deal with.
Bullying at school is a pet hate of mine.It can have a deep seated adverse affect on the bullied child for the rest of their lives. :-X :'( >:( >:( >:(

Tell me about it.. A friend of mine told me recently that she thinks I'm "afraid of women". Yup. There's a good reason for that.. they made my life hell at school (including things like the above mentioned disrobing going on). At 32 you'd think I'd be over it, but.. (and clobbering them wasn't really an option, they were girls! At least boys I could have clobbered..)

Anyhoo, I feel for the kids who are being bullied and hope you're all able to sort it out (those of you with kids in that situation); at least you know about it, I never told my folks what went on.
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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #9 on: 21 July 2011, 13:30:50 »

Each school must have a bullying policy, ask for a copy of it. Next, put the shits up them by asking for a copy of their complaints procedure.
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Martin_1962

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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #10 on: 21 July 2011, 13:34:53 »

To be honest they are just watching Top Gear and this afternoon will be doing board games while I work.

Only tomorrow to miss, not heard from the school since Sues having a rant at them.

Secondary school (wnet last week they love it) will be a different place as bullying is not tolerated as opposed to supported.

It is like they are scared of that child.
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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #11 on: 21 July 2011, 13:38:26 »

we had to take tom out of school last yr due to the lack of dicipline in the classroom, he wasnt learnin g anything as other kids were not interested in school. hes so much better off now. and there policy when hes locker got broken into and all his stuff sstolen was a school matter and not the police so was just a phone call to the parents everytime. they dont want a bad name so its all brushed under the table. they are not allowed to tell them to be quiet, they have to ask them and if they refuse the teacher has to try to work rounbd it.bring back the cane or expel them.
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Martin_1962

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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #12 on: 21 July 2011, 13:44:26 »

Their next school has an exclusion policy and lost of trouble makers have gone.

I remember when I tried to strangle a bully that they got told off I just got chatted to - as simply I snapped.
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Martin_1962

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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #13 on: 21 July 2011, 13:52:56 »

My daughter had issues there for the last couple of years.

The original head teacher was good, the replacement a bit wet and the current one is useless.

All the good teachers bailed out in the last 2 years as well.

It only took 4 years to go from good to rubbish.
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Re: Boys pulled out of school
« Reply #14 on: 21 July 2011, 14:29:31 »

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I know exactly what you are experiencing right now Martin.
Our youngest recently defended a schoolfriend (who gets picked on a lot because of his mental health disabilities) who was being beaten by a much bigger child, but because he used his martial arts skills to defend his friend we were told that this was considered "wholly & completely unacceptable" behaviour.

The entire incident was caught on CCTV (which we were shown), and it clearly showed the bully being hit once and once only, and our son then stepping back (which is what the Sabonim teaches) and stopping at that point.
The bully then got up and went to attack our son, at which point he promptly hit the bully with the same "sucker punch" again (the bully didn't go back for 3rd's after that one).

Needless to say both myself & my other half were not impressed, and we made it quite clear to the headteacher that we fully supported the way our son dealt with the situation and saw no wrongdoing whatsoever.
All that achieved however was for us to be told that if our son does one more thing then he will be excluded permanently, and the school also reported us to social services as they considered we needed to go on a "parenting skills" course because we made it clear we would not budge on our stance.

IMO the world has gone plain f*****g mad, and if we don't do something about it shortly (eg, go back to the way it was done in our day), then I don't hold out much hope for the human race  :(
 

Request a copy of the CCTV footage,then go to the press and contact your local MP. these rather mentalists have all but wrecked this country, and need to be defeated. >:( >:(

SECONDED :y

I always taught my four lads to stick up for themselves, even if they came off worse. Bullies like an easy target, and schools should DO SOMETHING, but they always seem to take the easy ( for them ) option.
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