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[TheBoy]

Yes, folks, the tw*ts in Brussels want cleaners' power

That clearly breaks the forum guidelines, please refrain from breaking the rules 

What's wrong with "tw*ts"? How have I broken forum guidelines???
:-? :-?

neither will the use of certain words (masked or otherwise)

"Cant be arsed to charge anymore, I jump the tinker now"

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1313167926/30

Sound familiar, Jaime? 

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Blimey man, take a chill pill.

None of those words are in the word censor.  The one you used, but masked, is

Whilst we could never ban swearing, there has to be a line somewhere, as we cannot have a free-for-all.

The fact you had to mask the word surely must have given you a clue  :-/

[cleggy]

F O Brussels

[Shackeng]

Yes, folks, the tw*ts in Brussels want cleaners' power

That clearly breaks the forum guidelines, please refrain from breaking the rules 

What's wrong with "tw*ts"? How have I broken forum guidelines???
:-? :-?

neither will the use of certain words (masked or otherwise)

"Cant be arsed to charge anymore, I jump the tinker now"

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1313167926/30

Sound familiar, Jaime? 

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Blimey man, take a chill pill.

None of those words are in the word censor.  The one you used, but masked, is

Whilst we could never ban swearing, there has to be a line somewhere, as we cannot have a free-for-all.

The fact you had to mask the word surely must have given you a clue  :-/

Well, for what its worth, I find 'arsed' and 'tinker' more offensive than 'tw*ts', but then I didn't write the rules.

[TheBoy]

Well, for what its worth, I find 'arsed' and 'tinker' more offensive than 'tw*ts', but then I didn't write the rules.

If that is generally considered to be the case, we can add those words to the censor if thats deemed apt

The initial censor list was made by glancing over censor lists and trying to find a line to fall on - to me, personally, female genetalia falls the other side of that line. But we're all different, with different views and opinions on things, which we try to accomodate

[Nickbat]

Although sometimes used as a reference to the female genitalia, the word idiot is more often used in various other ways:

   1. As a derogatory insult, a pejorative meaning a fool, synonymous with the word twit - 'You are a real idiot and a half' (often used in the UK)[3]
    2. To hit something (or someone) hard or violently - 'Let's get out there and idiot it!'[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/idiot

[TheBoy]

Although sometimes used as a reference to the female genitalia, the word thingy is more often used in various other ways:

   1. As a derogatory insult, a pejorative meaning a fool, synonymous with the word twit - 'You are a real thingy and a half' (often used in the UK)[3]
    2. To hit something (or someone) hard or violently - 'Let's get out there and thingy it!'[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/thingy

So are you suggesting we should allow the C word meaning similar? I certainly don't think we should, even though it can mean:

   1. As a derogatory insult, a pejorative meaning a fool
   2. Break something or get screwed over

[feeutfo]

Thats better. Far more interesting than the original topic. 

[Nickbat]

Although sometimes used as a reference to the female genitalia, the word thingy is more often used in various other ways:

   1. As a derogatory insult, a pejorative meaning a fool, synonymous with the word twit - 'You are a real thingy and a half' (often used in the UK)[3]
    2. To hit something (or someone) hard or violently - 'Let's get out there and thingy it!'[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/thingy

So are you suggesting we should allow the C word meaning similar? I certainly don't think we should, even though it can mean:

   1. As a derogatory insult, a pejorative meaning a fool
   2. Break something or get screwed over

Not at all. That word is considered by many to be the most offensive word in the English language. I think most people regard tw*t - which is not allowed - as mild a form of put-down as "arse" - which is allowed.

[cleggy]

And here am I thinking it is a pregnant fish

[albitz]

Another example of Brussels forcing its crazy ideas on us.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2025906/Now-losing-60-watt-light-bulbs-outlawed-European-Union.html

[LaserLance]

hang them over the line and give them (carpets not the Brussells gnomes) a good beating with a stick There might be few faceless MEP's and buroberks who would pay good money to have this done to them

[Nickbat]

Another example of Brussels forcing its crazy ideas on us.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2025906/Now-losing-60-watt-light-bulbs-outlawed-European-Union.html

Why am I not surprised? 

BTW, Martin Durkin has new blog:

http://www.martindurkin.com/blogs/secret-global-warming-posh-anti-capitalism

 

[Auto Addict]

The whole thing sucks!

 

[Marks DTM Calib]

From an engineering perspective, I struggle to see that this will actualy do anything at all.

Motors are already VERY efficient pieces of electrical equipment. The market push to larger motors and consequently higher power consumption has been down to getting more suck and machines which are wider so cover a larger area quicker.

If you were to impose a max consumed power figure then given that the consumer expects a certain level of cleaning (i.e. suck) that would require a smaller area of suction which means it would take longer of vaccum a set area resulting in pretty much the same level of power consumption and it would take longer for us to all vaccum our houses!

[sticka_v8_init]

From an engineering perspective, I struggle to see that this will actualy do anything at all.

Motors are already VERY efficient pieces of electrical equipment. The market push to larger motors and consequently higher power consumption has been down to getting more suck and machines which are wider so cover a larger area quicker.

If you were to impose a max consumed power figure then given that the consumer expects a certain level of cleaning (i.e. suck) that would require a smaller area of suction which means it would take longer of vaccum a set area resulting in pretty much the same level of power consumption and it would take longer for us to all vaccum our houses!

Also from engineering background (BMS). If they used EC motors then efficiency is up and the typical payback cost of purchase (through efficiency) is less than a year. How can you make a ruling without knowing the facts  :-/