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[feeutfo]

Very boring for you perhaps Chris, but not for everyone.
No need for the unfriendly attitude imo.Doesnt conform with forum guidelines either imo. If you dont like what the bloke posts just skim past it and dont read it, like no doubt quite a few people do when they have read hundreds of posts about how to make an Omega handle like a Ferrari.
Some members (such as yourself) are fascinated by trying to get the holy grail of perfect handling etc from their cars.Most tbh drive them because they are a comfy big barge, which does most things well for what it is. Nothing wrong with either veiwpoint, so being in the latter group I dont bother reading the latest opinion on which combination of tyre/bushes/shocks etc will shave 10 seconds off my route to work. I just skim past it because its not what holds my interest.

Press the button again then Albs.

Clearly there's a scale of opinion to consider. Non of which seem too relevant on a car forum in a continual bashing over the head style. Key word being relevance. If I piped up continually on a fishing forum re cars for instance.... Hmmm?

Obviously Mr Bat will say eu Eco etc affects us all. So do cars. It is a car forum.

Yes it's gen chat. Mr Bat has his opinion, I have mine.... And you yours, of course.

Even you venture into the help sections occasionally...

The post he made was completely relevant to the original thread, and you as a biker surprise me with your blase attitude to the subject tbh. If you read Rods2 post above this post it should explain that it could very easily become relevant to people such as yourself in the future. Change the spec of your dampers/springs/bushes - we cant allow amateurs to do that kind of thing, cars will be flying off the roads and killing people left, right and centre. Install your own LPG ? not in a million years sonny. It would be tantamount to having unexploded bombs in the boot of cars all over the country. We would be abdicating our governace of safety responsibilities in the extreme if we allow that type of thing to continue...........

And btw, what does "press the button again" mean ? :-/

What's new Albs? You know as well as I do Mag and the EU have been at it since the beginning, and it will continue to the end no doubt. Boooooring!

[hotel21]

Very boring for you perhaps Chris, but not for everyone.
No need for the unfriendly attitude imo.Doesnt conform with forum guidelines either imo. If you dont like what the bloke posts just skim past it and dont read it, like no doubt quite a few people do when they have read hundreds of posts about how to make an Omega handle like a Ferrari.
Some members (such as yourself) are fascinated by trying to get the holy grail of perfect handling etc from their cars.Most tbh drive them because they are a comfy big barge, which does most things well for what it is. Nothing wrong with either veiwpoint, so being in the latter group I dont bother reading the latest opinion on which combination of tyre/bushes/shocks etc will shave 10 seconds off my route to work. I just skim past it because its not what holds my interest.

Press the button again then Albs.

Clearly there's a scale of opinion to consider. Non of which seem too relevant on a car forum in a continual bashing over the head style. Key word being relevance. If I piped up continually on a fishing forum re cars for instance.... Hmmm?

Obviously Mr Bat will say eu Eco etc affects us all. So do cars. It is a car forum.

Yes it's gen chat. Mr Bat has his opinion, I have mine.... And you yours, of course.

Even you venture into the help sections occasionally...

The post he made was completely relevant to the original thread, and you as a biker surprise me with your blase attitude to the subject tbh. If you read Rods2 post above this post it should explain that it could very easily become relevant to people such as yourself in the future. Change the spec of your dampers/springs/bushes - we cant allow amateurs to do that kind of thing, cars will be flying off the roads and killing people left, right and centre. Install your own LPG ? not in a million years sonny. It would be tantamount to having unexploded bombs in the boot of cars all over the country. We would be abdicating our governace of safety responsibilities in the extreme if we allow that type of thing to continue...........

And btw, what does "press the button again" mean ? :-/

What's new Albs? You know as well as I do Mag and the EU have been at it since the beginning, and it will continue to the end no doubt. Boooooring!

Surelty if its that boring then why continue to add to it?

[Turk]

Tunnie, do you always wear a Day-glo vest whilst riding ?

[tunnie]

Tunnie, do you always wear a Day-glo vest whilst riding ?

No, but if it became requirement, I would have not issues wearing one 

[feeutfo]

Tunnie, do you always wear a Day-glo vest whilst riding ?

No, but if it became requirement, I would have not issues wearing one 

If I still had a road bike, a dayglo wouldn't bother me either.

But they still won't see the rider.... And the rider won't slow down because of it either.

Bikes should have a yellow head light and all else should be white. Then we can pic them out easier in mirrors, while filtering behind us, in on coming traffic etc.

[Andy B]

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If I still had a road bike, a dayglo wouldn't bother me either.

But they still won't see the rider.... And the rider won't slow down because of it either....

Hi-Viz vest are a pita to wear at the best of times, always getting caught on something or other. A vest flapping about at speed - & I mean sensible speeds, not license busting warp speeds - would be unbearable.
Also, how does a reflective, bright coloured bike jacket not get seen rather than the vest? As you say Chris, people don't see you on a bike because they just don't look.  :-?

[Martin_1962]

Worst thing is all this headlamp and driving light rubbish.

I never had lights on in day, unless bad weather, I find it easier to just daytime speeds when not lit up like a Christmas tree.

Only hit accidents I was seen but driver assumed I would not be in her lane (going from right to left as I entered on that side).

[Kevin Wood]

If I still had a road bike, a dayglo wouldn't bother me either.

How long do you think it'll be before the powers that be decide that riding/driving round in circles on a track is a monumental waste of petrol and rubber and should, therefore, be banned?

The MSA has already been badgered into adding a clause requiring catalytic converters on track into the blue book. Utterly pointless, of course, as they do nothing whatsoever on an engine that's used at full chat pretty much all the time.

[Andy B]

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I never had lights on in day, unless bad weather, ....

My bike's headlight is always on. I consider it to be one less excuse for car drivers to not see me with.

You should also try driving her Smart Roadster. I think other drivers must that that because it's little then it must be driving slowly, either that or they just don't see it.  :-?

[Martin_1962]

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I never had lights on in day, unless bad weather, ....

My bike's headlight is always on. I consider it to be one less excuse for car drivers to not see me with.

You should also try driving her Smart Roadster. I think other drivers must that that because it's little then it must be driving slowly, either that or they just don't see it.  :-?

Biggest thing for invisibility is a caravan

[tunnie]

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If I still had a road bike, a dayglo wouldn't bother me either.

But they still won't see the rider.... And the rider won't slow down because of it either....

Hi-Viz vest are a pita to wear at the best of times, always getting caught on something or other. A vest flapping about at speed - & I mean sensible speeds, not license busting warp speeds - would be unbearable.
Also, how does a reflective, bright coloured bike jacket not get seen rather than the vest? As you say Chris, people don't see you on a bike because they just don't look.  :-?

You can get ones as part of jackets now, either part coloured, or entire jacket:



Stops anything flapping around at speed

[feeutfo]

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If I still had a road bike, a dayglo wouldn't bother me either.

But they still won't see the rider.... And the rider won't slow down because of it either....

Hi-Viz vest are a pita to wear at the best of times, always getting caught on something or other. A vest flapping about at speed - & I mean sensible speeds, not license busting warp speeds - would be unbearable.
Also, how does a reflective, bright coloured bike jacket not get seen rather than the vest? As you say Chris, people don't see you on a bike because they just don't look.  :-?

You can get ones as part of jackets now, either part coloured, or entire jacket:



Stops anything flapping around at speed

When racing all beginners have to wear a Wally bib for their first season. Never noticed I had it on.
Granted they are not as large. But nobody complains there.

[tunnie]

I had one when learning too, blasting around on an old ER-5 around the lanes I never noticed it either

[Darth Loo-knee]

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If I still had a road bike, a dayglo wouldn't bother me either.

But they still won't see the rider.... And the rider won't slow down because of it either....

Hi-Viz vest are a pita to wear at the best of times, always getting caught on something or other. A vest flapping about at speed - & I mean sensible speeds, not license busting warp speeds - would be unbearable.
Also, how does a reflective, bright coloured bike jacket not get seen rather than the vest? As you say Chris, people don't see you on a bike because they just don't look.  :-?

You can get ones as part of jackets now, either part coloured, or entire jacket:



Stops anything flapping around at speed

When racing all beginners have to wear a Wally bib for their first season. Never noticed I had it on.
Granted they are not as large. But nobody complains there.

Now what is it they say?? Ah yes, "I the shirt fits wear it!" 

Sorry Gixer well I aren't really 

[feeutfo]

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If I still had a road bike, a dayglo wouldn't bother me either.

But they still won't see the rider.... And the rider won't slow down because of it either....

Hi-Viz vest are a pita to wear at the best of times, always getting caught on something or other. A vest flapping about at speed - & I mean sensible speeds, not license busting warp speeds - would be unbearable.
Also, how does a reflective, bright coloured bike jacket not get seen rather than the vest? As you say Chris, people don't see you on a bike because they just don't look.  :-?

You can get ones as part of jackets now, either part coloured, or entire jacket:



Stops anything flapping around at speed

When racing all beginners have to wear a Wally bib for their first season. Never noticed I had it on.
Granted they are not as large. But nobody complains there.

Now what is it they say?? Ah yes, "I the shirt fits wear it!" 

Sorry Gixer well I aren't really 

You on your Wally phone...?