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[realboss7669]

Does anyone know the weight of a 3.0 V6 Vauxhall Omega engine? Also does anyone know the weight of a manual gearbox?

Why? you may ask. Its back to this Opel Rekord Coupe project of mine. JamesV6CDX has sorted my MV6 estate and I'm loving it. Its a filthy car (I mean that in a conceptual way 'filthy' as in Capri Ghia filthy rather than literally the car being dirty!), and now its on the road I feel more of a man. Oh yes, an MV6 ex-rozzer car does that to you. I have a fag burn in my seat, white patches all over the car where I've covered up rust attacks, the dashboard stereo and ashtray are all hanging out (as they were badly retro fitted), and the blower for the rear of the car is dangling down not to mention the back seats are a different colour than the fronts. But, underneath all of this is a fantastic power plant, driven by a man with a silly childlike grin on his face!

Due to this, and James suggesting the that a V8 Rover engine in the Opel would be what he'd choose, I am (to play on words), 'weighing' up the differences between the Rover V8 and the Omega V6 again!!!

Any advice or comments appreciated. The Rekord is a 1968 model like a mini-Dodge Charger in appearance, but bigger than the Opel Manta A-series. The chassis is roughly about the size of the Opel Monza so could handle a V8 as well as a V6. Like James said though, maybe the V8 would be more of a laugh, given its street presence (the sheer noise). I would probably LPG anything that goes into the Rekord anyway; got to do my bit for the environment.

Here is a link so you can see the shape of the car I have (second photo down shows a coupe):

http://www.philseed.com/oprekc.html

Cheers all! 8-)

[Marks DTM Calib]

Weight is not as much as you would think....probably about 200Kg with the ancillaries (so much lighter than mentioned in MrMcB's add for his engine crane!).......Rover V8 is not far off the same.

Heres the issue though.....the Rover V8 is a little wider and unless you spend cash on it, less powerful.

3.0 V6 all the way for me......as the 5 speed manual box should be an easier fit and isnt made of chocolate like the LT's used on the V8....

[Elite Pete]

One thing to be said for the V8 is the erection stirring noise

[realboss7669]

One thing to be said for the V8 is the erection stirring noise

Oh dear! I hope my missus isn't going to be borrowing it every 5 minutes then in order to get a free showcase! It certainly would create a stir when popping out for some bread and milk at the local supermarket!!

Marks DTM Calib thanks for you're valuable response too. Yes I will need to consider width of V8 engine and the gearbox etc. V8 does have that wonderful throaty roar that only V8's produce, but I actually love the V6's more subtle growl as well. Considering the power output and size etc, the V6 seems the logical choice, but a V8 is a filthy beast and what others see as a trip to the supermarket I will daydream as being a mad dash across the US like in Vanishing Point (damn good film if anyone hasnt seen it).

Hmmm, given me food for thought  :-/

[Marks DTM Calib]

For info, approx V8 bhp figures

3.5 - 160-190bhp (dependent on version, most were the lower power ones, higher power were the Vitesse engines)
3.9 - 188bhp (Range rover engine, basicaly 3950ish cc)
4.0 - 188bhp ish (Range rover engine, basicaly 3950ish cc but, cranka dn oil pump etc changed, slight block mods like cross bolts on mains)
4.2 - Rocking horse muck!
4.4 - 200bhp
4.6 - 222bhp (Stroked version of the 4.0)
5.0 - 340bhp (TVR engine)

All are fairly rough figures but, show its not an engine that produces much bhp per cc, it is good for torque though and hence why it eats the pre95 Range Rover gearboxes if taken off road....

And I havn't mentioned any of the specials like the twin plenum 3.5s either as you aint liekly to find one!
 
Note also with a Rover V8 engine, you are very likely to need to re-build it as there not hugely good at high mileage with cam, follower, timing chain, sprocket and valve gear wear being all to common.

[realboss7669]

Thanks again Mark, I think that decides it for me in favour of the V6. That will mean my MV6 filth wagon will have to lay down its life for its elderly relative, but I will then source myself another Omega for my day to day driving as I love them. I will chuck the leftover shell of the Omega onto Ebay or something.

I have to say I am constantly amazed by this forum. For example I mention possible engine transplant and then Mark goes off in his own time and researches information for me. Amazing place! Thanks bud!  

[Phil]

Go for the V8, speak to Rupert here McDonald Landrover

They can tweak and tune at very reasonable rates.

Oh and the 90 on the front page is running a 4.6ltr V8 and goes like poo off a shiney shovel  

[Ronald_McBurger]

Yes, that will be the engine that I weighed. That will be the engine crane that I made a £1 profit on. That will be the engine that is 'not easy' to change, but was.

[realboss7669]

I take it you are referring to the V6 rather than the V8?!!! :-?

[Marks DTM Calib]

Yes, that will be the engine that I weighed.

You lie like a cheap japanese watch!  

That will be the engine that is 'not easy' to change, but was.

Not a phrase I would ever use......as everybody here knows.....it cant be that easy or it would be finished

[Ronald_McBurger]

It is finished. I confirmed the wieght by having the Mrs on one end of a see saw, and the V6 on the other. She won.

[Marks DTM Calib]

It is finished. I confirmed the wieght by having the Mrs on one end of a see saw, and the V6 on the other. She won.

I'll tell her....

[Jay w]

For info, approx V8 bhp figures

3.5 - 160-190bhp (dependent on version, most were the lower power ones, higher power were the Vitesse engines)
3.9 - 188bhp (Range rover engine, basicaly 3950ish cc)
4.0 - 188bhp ish (Range rover engine, basicaly 3950ish cc but, cranka dn oil pump etc changed, slight block mods like cross bolts on mains)
4.2 - Rocking horse muck!
4.4 - 200bhp
4.6 - 222bhp (Stroked version of the 4.0)
5.0 - 340bhp (TVR engine)

All are fairly rough figures but, show its not an engine that produces much bhp per cc, it is good for torque though and hence why it eats the pre95 Range Rover gearboxes if taken off road....

And I havn't mentioned any of the specials like the twin plenum 3.5s either as you aint liekly to find one!

Note also with a Rover V8 engine, you are very likely to need to re-build it as there not hugely good at high mileage with cam, follower, timing chain, sprocket and valve gear wear being all to common.

I know where there is one possibly two for grabs, i have a feeling the guys isn't clued up as to what he has, they both have huge mileage on them and the cars they came out of looked like they had been to the moon and back at least twice

[TheBoy]

That will be the engine that is 'not easy' to change, but was.

Not a phrase I would ever use......as everybody here knows.....it cant be that easy or it would be finished

Bit like the LPG project then

[Auto Addict]

That will be the engine that is 'not easy' to change, but was.

Not a phrase I would ever use......as everybody here knows.....it cant be that easy or it would be finished

Bit like the LPG project then