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Re: Camber Gauge
« Reply #1 on: 07 April 2010, 09:23:29 »

You need to measure camber with the wheels sitting on the ground - so attaching that to the hub is out. Could it be attached to the brake disk through an alloy? Depends on the wheel, I suppose. :-/

I would save your money and use a spirit level with a spacer at each end to sit on the wheel rim, top and bottom. Make the top spacer a little longer to give the desired camber.

Purely from memory, about 7 or 8 mm extra at the top of the wheel will give the desired 1o10 'ish of camber when the spirit level is showing vertical.

Hmm. Perhaps I should take some photos as I'm not sure the above made sense. :-/

Kevin

EDIT: Of course, once you've adjusted the camber the toe will be out, and that's less easy to rectify accurately on a DIY basis.
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Re: Camber Gauge
« Reply #2 on: 07 April 2010, 10:29:22 »

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You need to measure camber with the wheels sitting on the ground - so attaching that to the hub is out. Could it be attached to the brake disk through an alloy? Depends on the wheel, I suppose. :-/

I would save your money and use a spirit level with a spacer at each end to sit on the wheel rim, top and bottom. Make the top spacer a little longer to give the desired camber.

Purely from memory, about 7 or 8 mm extra at the top of the wheel will give the desired 1o10 'ish of camber when the spirit level is showing vertical.

Hmm. Perhaps I should take some photos as I'm not sure the above made sense. :-/

Kevin

EDIT: Of course, once you've adjusted the camber the toe will be out, and that's less easy to rectify accurately on a DIY basis.

On reflection, I agree Kev.

When I set-up the camber on my previous car, that's how I did it.
After slackening the two bolts, I managed to wedge a cold chisel between the leg/hub carrier, (with the car 'on all fours'), and tapped the chisel downwards until the desired setting was achieved.
Rechecked after a short run, and all was well. Tyres wore quite evenly, and car ran in a straight line.
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Obviously, a bit fiddly with the wheel in-situ, but do-able nonetheless!
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Re: Camber Gauge
« Reply #3 on: 07 April 2010, 10:54:26 »

had a look at the link there very handy tool . in the past four omegas i have owned i have had plenty of fun trying to adjust the camber by guessing . its well worth doing it your self gives experience  :y
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Re: Camber Gauge
« Reply #4 on: 07 April 2010, 11:40:22 »

My concern is that the gauge shown does not have the resolution to set the camber to where you want it.
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Re: Camber Gauge
« Reply #5 on: 07 April 2010, 13:14:55 »

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My concern is that the gauge shown does not have the resolution to set the camber to where you want it.

Yes, the measurement scale does look more suited to autograss racing. ;)

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Re: Camber Gauge
« Reply #6 on: 07 April 2010, 20:44:18 »

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had a look at the link there very handy tool . in the past four omegas i have owned i have had plenty of fun trying to adjust the camber by guessing . its well worth doing it your self gives experience  :y

Absolutely.
Sods law dictates that your wishbone, spring and shocker (all requiring removal/adjustment of strut) will not all go at the same time - this could possibly mean 3 trips to WIM/wherever to check alignment in the same year.
You can set camber using this gauge with wheels off but you need to get wishbone to correct ride height by possibly using a couple of jacks - one under cross-member and one under wishbone :y
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Re: Camber Gauge
« Reply #7 on: 07 April 2010, 20:59:32 »

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had a look at the link there very handy tool . in the past four omegas i have owned i have had plenty of fun trying to adjust the camber by guessing . its well worth doing it your self gives experience  :y

Absolutely.
Sods law dictates that your wishbone, spring and shocker (all requiring removal/adjustment of strut) will not all go at the same time - this could possibly mean 3 trips to WIM/wherever to check alignment in the same year.
You can set camber using this gauge with wheels off but you need to get wishbone to correct ride height by possibly using a couple of jacks - one under cross-member and one under wishbone :y

Not if you attach the gauge to a straight-edge fixed to the road wheel at the 6 o'clock position, whilst the car is still 'on all fours'!
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« Reply #8 on: 07 April 2010, 21:49:58 »

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had a look at the link there very handy tool . in the past four omegas i have owned i have had plenty of fun trying to adjust the camber by guessing . its well worth doing it your self gives experience  :y

Absolutely.
Sods law dictates that your wishbone, spring and shocker (all requiring removal/adjustment of strut) will not all go at the same time - this could possibly mean 3 trips to WIM/wherever to check alignment in the same year.
You can set camber using this gauge with wheels off but you need to get wishbone to correct ride height by possibly using a couple of jacks - one under cross-member and one under wishbone :y

Not if you attach the gauge to a straight-edge fixed to the road wheel at the 6 o'clock position, whilst the car is still 'on all fours'!
 ;)


You attach it to the brake disc :y
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Re: Camber Gauge
« Reply #9 on: 07 April 2010, 22:09:08 »

See my ditty in Reply No.2 above and you should be able to work out how I did it :y
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Re: Camber Gauge
« Reply #10 on: 07 April 2010, 23:08:51 »

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had a look at the link there very handy tool . in the past four omegas i have owned i have had plenty of fun trying to adjust the camber by guessing . its well worth doing it your self gives experience  :y

Absolutely.
Sods law dictates that your wishbone, spring and shocker (all requiring removal/adjustment of strut) will not all go at the same time - this could possibly mean 3 trips to WIM/wherever to check alignment in the same year.
You can set camber using this gauge with wheels off but you need to get wishbone to correct ride height by possibly using a couple of jacks - one under cross-member and one under wishbone :y

Not if you attach the gauge to a straight-edge fixed to the road wheel at the 6 o'clock position, whilst the car is still 'on all fours'!
 ;)


Would still be more accurate and cheaper to use a spirit level, IMHO. ;)

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Re: Camber Gauge
« Reply #11 on: 08 April 2010, 01:13:34 »

never going to replace the set up process, but might save some tyre wear on the way to Wim, or whoever/wherever your prefered set up company is.

If your confident/happy with the original set up then usefull as a guide to replicate once the work is done i guess.

too many variables to be reliable from scratch imo, ALWAYS be weary of printed on measuring scales. They are never accurate.
Has the disc worn evenly on both sides. Is the car level etc. But yes, better than nout.
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