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[Del Boy]

Bought a 1 series tonight for a customer, it leaves wednesday, only problem is handbrake light and DTC light stays on, any ideas? 56 plate 120d Sport, it's actually a lovely little car and I would keep it. Anyway any ideas I've heard that it could be an ABS ring on the rear wheels which is very common, I've ordered one but anyone know if this will cure it?

Cheers 

[Del Boy]

Seems as though thats the general idea, ABS ring bm owners say it's very common, got one coming tomorrow. Bad really it's only done 42k, drives lovely mind you 

[TheBoy]

Seems as though thats the general idea, ABS ring bm owners say it's very common, got one coming tomorrow. Bad really it's only done 42k, drives lovely mind you 

Its BMW, of course its poor quality!

[Del Boy]

Seems as though thats the general idea, ABS ring bm owners say it's very common, got one coming tomorrow. Bad really it's only done 42k, drives lovely mind you 

Its BMW, of course its poor quality!

Now now. My 5er is top notch, this is a quality car too but I don't see the premium over an Astra? Lot of badge going on with this, I would have one though and it's flipping quick. With no DTC too it's a hoot

[Del Boy]

I will say though, I saw the SAAB down there, I did feel upset when I see it 

[TheBoy]

Seems as though thats the general idea, ABS ring bm owners say it's very common, got one coming tomorrow. Bad really it's only done 42k, drives lovely mind you 

Its BMW, of course its poor quality!

Now now. My 5er is top notch, this is a quality car too but I don't see the premium over an Astra? Lot of badge going on with this, I would have one though and it's flipping quick. With no DTC too it's a hoot

1 series was actually a Rover, rejigged to be RWD when BMW decided they needed a smaller car in their own line up - thats why its so badly compromised.

'Real' BMWs also have quality issues, have traded on their name for 15 - 20yrs now.  No real issue with that, but they are no better, and in a lot of cases worse, than a Fraud Mundano .

[TheBoy]

Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra

[Del Boy]

Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra

I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.

[TheBoy]

Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra

I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.

We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)

[Del Boy]

Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra

I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.

We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)

Agreed  I will say they ruined Rover which was a very bad move 

[TheBoy]

Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra

I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.

We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)

Agreed  I will say they ruined Rover which was a very bad move 

It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff - variety is good

[Del Boy]

Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra

I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.

We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)

Agreed  I will say they ruined Rover which was a very bad move 

It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff - variety is good

Sure is, hows the LPG by the way?

[TheBoy]

Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra

I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.

We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)

Agreed  I will say they ruined Rover which was a very bad move 

It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff - variety is good

Sure is, hows the LPG by the way?

Only done a couple of hundred miles, so no idea on costs yet, but runs very well (but not ragged it yet due to ongoing engine noises)

[Del Boy]

Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra

I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.

We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)

Agreed  I will say they ruined Rover which was a very bad move 

It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff - variety is good

Sure is, hows the LPG by the way?

Only done a couple of hundred miles, so no idea on costs yet, but runs very well (but not ragged it yet due to ongoing engine noises)

Good stuff  Hope you get the noises sorted!

[cem_devecioglu]

Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra

I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.

We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)

Agreed  I will say they ruined Rover which was a very bad move 

It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff - variety is good

Sure is, hows the LPG by the way?

Only done a couple of hundred miles, so no idea on costs yet, but runs very well (but not ragged it yet due to ongoing engine noises)

if you rag it , even on LPG your 3.0 silver bullet have the ability to drain your wallet, shockingly fast :-/

some time ago I remember I tried to follow an M3 on highway for an hour at awful speeds which cost me more than half a tank fuel