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« on: 26 July 2010, 22:15:20 »
i called into to a garage of a mates who has all the alignment setup and bumped into another oo user having there's done before mine! :o
they could only adjust the front for me as the rear were still seized :( here are the settings ive come away with

              left front               right front
camber   -1° 43'                  -2 °19'
caster     -4° 43'                  -5° 36'
toe         -0° 05'                  -0° 05'

total toe          -0° 10'
steer ahead     -0° 00'

              left rear                          right rear
camber   -2° 00'                             -2° 48' (red)
toe         -0° 19' (red)                     -0° 09'

total toe       -0° 27'
thrust angle  -0° 05'

i don't think they totally understand the equipment but its cheap :y  are these any good?
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Re: wheel alignment
« Reply #1 on: 26 July 2010, 22:23:34 »
Those camber settings will wreck a set of tyres in double quick time ...

Take it to someone who knows what they are doing.

Camber should be -1° 10' and MUST be the same each side !!!

Once the camber is right then, and only then, can the rest be done.
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Re: wheel alignment
« Reply #2 on: 26 July 2010, 22:25:49 »
no, those settings are shitter than shit.
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Re: wheel alignment
« Reply #3 on: 26 July 2010, 22:27:28 »
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no, those settings are shitter than shit.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
i had a feeling
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Re: wheel alignment
« Reply #4 on: 26 July 2010, 22:29:34 »
These idiots shouldn't be allowed to trade.  If you hadn't checked, thats £200 of front rubber they have ruined in 5k  >:(
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Re: wheel alignment
« Reply #5 on: 26 July 2010, 22:34:14 »
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Those camber settings will wreck a set of tyres in double quick time ...

Take it to someone who knows what they are doing.

Camber should be -1° 10' and MUST be the same each side !!!

Once the camber is right then, and only then, can the rest be done.
Oh contrare mon a me.

Wim will, or have done in the past, dial in a fraction more camber on the pas side to counter the road crown, or, to counter outside edge ware according to how you drive round roundabouts for example.

But whatever, compared to those settings, they should certainly aim for identical both sides.

However I would think the front subframe would need twisting to even up the caster settings first, meaning what they have done is something of a waste of time. Although I'm not that familiar with the tolerances for that setting tbh.
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Re: wheel alignment
« Reply #6 on: 26 July 2010, 22:48:52 »
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Oh contrare mon a me.

Wim will, or have done in the past, dial in a fraction more camber on the pas side to counter the road crown, or, to counter outside edge ware according to how you drive round roundabouts for example.


But whatever, compared to those settings, they should certainly aim for identical both sides.

However I would think the front subframe would need twisting to even up the caster settings first, meaning what they have done is something of a waste of time. Although I'm not that familiar with the tolerances for that setting tbh.

front subframe needs twisting!. WTF that dont sound good!
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Re: wheel alignment
« Reply #7 on: 26 July 2010, 22:52:51 »
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Oh contrare mon a me.

Wim will, or have done in the past, dial in a fraction more camber on the pas side to counter the road crown, or, to counter outside edge ware according to how you drive round roundabouts for example.


But whatever, compared to those settings, they should certainly aim for identical both sides.

However I would think the front subframe would need twisting to even up the caster settings first, meaning what they have done is something of a waste of time. Although I'm not that familiar with the tolerances for that setting tbh.

front subframe needs twisting!. WTF that dont sound good!

Only means slackening a couple of bolts and a couple of gently WHACKS with a rubber mallet.  :y
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Re: wheel alignment
« Reply #8 on: 26 July 2010, 22:54:44 »
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Oh contrare mon a me.

Wim will, or have done in the past, dial in a fraction more camber on the pas side to counter the road crown, or, to counter outside edge ware according to how you drive round roundabouts for example.


But whatever, compared to those settings, they should certainly aim for identical both sides.

However I would think the front subframe would need twisting to even up the caster settings first, meaning what they have done is something of a waste of time. Although I'm not that familiar with the tolerances for that setting tbh.

front subframe needs twisting!. WTF that dont sound good!

Only means slackening a couple of bolts and a couple of gently WHACKS with a rubber mallet.  :y


One hopes they are correctly calibrated "WHACKS" .. we don't allow gash workmanship on this site you know ...  :)
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Re: wheel alignment
« Reply #9 on: 26 July 2010, 22:55:45 »
Correctly Calibrated?  Exactly what I said Mr Entwood!  ;D
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« Reply #10 on: 26 July 2010, 22:57:40 »
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Oh contrare mon a me.

Wim will, or have done in the past, dial in a fraction more camber on the pas side to counter the road crown, or, to counter outside edge ware according to how you drive round roundabouts for example.


But whatever, compared to those settings, they should certainly aim for identical both sides.

However I would think the front subframe would need twisting to even up the caster settings first, meaning what they have done is something of a waste of time. Although I'm not that familiar with the tolerances for that setting tbh.

front subframe needs twisting!. WTF that dont sound good!
Twisting in it's position, not bending  ;D

Tell them , no don't go back unless it's to get your money....

The subframe is bolted to the the chassis, undo the bolts with big grunt, set the caster setting THEN set the camber and toe to that position. Got to be done first as the wishbones and hence shocks and track rods will move with the subframe throwing them all out.
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Re: wheel alignment
« Reply #11 on: 26 July 2010, 23:08:31 »
i would take her down to wim but im worried about the costs plus the fact shes a bit of a banger!
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Re: wheel alignment
« Reply #12 on: 26 July 2010, 23:13:38 »
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i would take her down to wim but im worried about the costs plus the fact shes a bit of a banger!

Haven't WIM got someone up North now ??


Nigel Langs Garage

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?? If you go to wheels in motion web site, buy tyres, select wheel alignement, you get to the page .. :)
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Re: wheel alignment
« Reply #13 on: 26 July 2010, 23:20:54 »
i had a look a couple of days ago, think it said £115 is that a final price with all adjustments? I dont think its worth taking it back to the first garage.
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Re: wheel alignment
« Reply #14 on: 27 July 2010, 11:43:58 »
.. and regardless of all of this, the back end's all to pot and needs un-siezing and correcting before starting on the front!

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