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[albitz]

Went to my usual garage tonight to fill up with LPG.As it was filling up, I looked at the pump and noticed it has risen from 65ppl last week, to 73ppl this week.
Diesel Corsa could be on the drive soon.

[vauxfan2k]

thats hell of a hike, is it a tax hike or supplier hike?

[albitz]

Supplier afaik. :-/

[feeutfo]

http://www.whatprice.co.uk/petrol-prices/recent-lpg-prices.html

Interesting graph, if a graph can be interesting.  :-/

And updatable price map.

[Lazydocker]

LPG prices have risen from about 34ppl under 4 years ago to 71ppl now and, TBH, I doubt I'd pay the money to convert another car I still do enough miles to recover the DIY costs in under a year but the prices have gone up so much I don't know if I can justify it... Smelly oil burner for me as my next car I expect

[feeutfo]

But it's still in proportion to other fuel prices I thought?  :-/

[albitz]

Petrol at the same garage has changed from 120.9 to 122.9
Lpg used to be less than half the price of petrol. It has become much more popular in the last 3 or 4 years imo, and it is now at the point where it will probably price itself out of the market.
Definetely small oil burner for me next time. I have put it off as long as possible, but its time to think about driving something purely for its low running costs.

[TheBoy]

Jumped from 60.9 to 65.9 around here 2 or 3 weeks ago.  I can get it at 63.9, but means travelling across town.

Having filled up the Elite on unleaded the other day, I *WILL* be converting that.

Although my commute is only 28 miles each way, its a bit rubbish, and I spend 2hrs a day in the car, even though she gets opened up on the dual carriageway sections. I need my comfort.  A large diesel would probably only return mid/high 30s.  I am currently getting 19.8mpg @ 65.9p - not cost effective to buy a 15k 2nd hand diesel.  My other option is something like a TD Fi-fi

[Kevin Wood]

The problem is, for a tractor to do any better than a V6 on LPG it needs to be pretty new. Diesels available for "Omega money" will be gutless, thirsty or both.

If it came to it I would rather go for a smaller petrol car, TBH.

Kevin

[tunnie]

The problem is, for a tractor to do any better than a V6 on LPG it needs to be pretty new. Diesels available for "Omega money" will be gutless, thirsty or both.

If it came to it I would rather go for a smaller petrol car, TBH.

Kevin

Thats the problem, even though fuel is expensive it still makes sense to get an old petrol.

A nice modern diesel, say Audi A8/BMW 5 ect, are about £10/15k

Spend say £6k on a second hand Jag XJR, its going to take a long time to spend that £5-10k difference in fuel.

Takes about 1,000's of mines just to pay off a few hundred quid difference.  :-/

[feeutfo]

What ever we buy will be a fair whack more than an omega, for what? At worst not dis similar fuel prices?

Same thing applies to tax increases. "what you gona do when tax goes up" they ask me at work (iknow it didn't go up at the time but they weren't to know)
"pay it" says i.

"But it's going to be £400 quid...?"or whatever thy where proposing at the time.

Yes? So what do yuo want me to do? Pay an extra £200pa in tax or spend another 5k on a smaller crapier car that the way I drive won't be much cheaper in fuel anyway...?

Or am I missing something...? I haven't done the maths on fuel costs, but where am I going to find another 5k or so for a newer motor?

[Kevin Wood]

Thats the problem, even though fuel is expensive it still makes sense to get an old petrol.

A nice modern diesel, say Audi A8/BMW 5 ect, are about £10/15k

Spend say £6k on a second hand Jag XJR, its going to take a long time to spend that £5-10k difference in fuel.

Takes about 1,000's of mines just to pay off a few hundred quid difference.  :-/

Yep. That's before you consider that the more state-of-the-art tractors appear still to be prone to expensive failures whereas, whilst petrol Omegas have their niggles, they are generally cheap to fix.

Certainly I'd say people who are relying on stealers for servicing and repair are kidding themselves when they think a diesel is cheaper to run. Easy to do if you only consider the fuel costs, of course.

Kevin

[TheBoy]

Thats the problem, even though fuel is expensive it still makes sense to get an old petrol.

A nice modern diesel, say Audi A8/BMW 5 ect, are about £10/15k

Spend say £6k on a second hand Jag XJR, its going to take a long time to spend that £5-10k difference in fuel.

Takes about 1,000's of mines just to pay off a few hundred quid difference.  :-/

Yep. That's before you consider that the more state-of-the-art tractors appear still to be prone to expensive failures whereas, whilst petrol Omegas have their niggles, they are generally cheap to fix.

Certainly I'd say people who are relying on stealers for servicing and repair are kidding themselves when they think a diesel is cheaper to run. Easy to do if you only consider the fuel costs, of course.

Kevin

I know I drove it like a prat, but my old tractor was more expensive to run than my MV6 .  I know its not a modern diesel, but I was getting around 31-33mpg, and it needed 6.5l of oil every 2.5k, including an expensive oil filter.  It seemed to like diesel magic, and 6 monthly fuel filter changes.

The MV6 was (at the time) doing 26mpg, 5.5l of oil every 3k, £1 filter, fuel filter every couple of years, and a new air filter annually.  Petrol was, at the time, around 5 or 6p a litre (23 - 27p a gallon) cheaper.


Though, in fairness to Tractor/TB2, it was ragged absolutely everywhere, though always allowed to warm up and cool down.  God, we miss that car 

[hoofing it]

watch this space LPG will be the same price as diesel in 10 years

[henryd]

watch this space LPG will be the same price as diesel in 10 years

It was the same a few years ago when diesel was much cheaper than petrol then diesel car sales took off and so Did diesel fuel prices