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[TheBoy]

Oh my, you've got me started on Top Gear now... [smiley=rolleyes.gif]

EVERY time they "test" some meaningful, real-world car, especially older, used cars (think 'Supercars for under £1500' episode, or 'BL did make some quite decent cars' episode, with SD1, Dolomite Sprint & Ambassador), the budget is so ridiculous it's no wonder the cars fail under harsh treatment. If they'd done 'Supercars for under £5000', or 'Good BL cars for under £2500', they'd have had a more realistic real-world test and no cheap laughs. They may even have had to use some real-world journalistic skills. Maybe that would be too difficult for them - just go for the rancid cheap laughs, that's much easier..... [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

I think you're forgetting that To Gear is an entertainment programme, loosely based around cars...  ...it hasn't been a serious review programme for years - its 3 middle aged men arsing around, and for that I like it.

I haven't forgotten that it's failed to "entertain" me in many years.
What's wrong with expecting more from the premier motoring programme on TV than 3 abject berks arseing about? WITH OUR BLOODY LICENCE FEE MONEY???

Don't we already suffer from more than enough 'lowest common-denominator' programmes of all tripes and stripes?

If the BBC had its way entirely, I'm sure it would be knobenders all day, every day. Now that mindless tripe I would struggle to deal with for more than 2 seconds...

[Shackeng]

Oh my, you've got me started on Top Gear now... [smiley=rolleyes.gif]

EVERY time they "test" some meaningful, real-world car, especially older, used cars (think 'Supercars for under £1500' episode, or 'BL did make some quite decent cars' episode, with SD1, Dolomite Sprint & Ambassador), the budget is so ridiculous it's no wonder the cars fail under harsh treatment. If they'd done 'Supercars for under £5000', or 'Good BL cars for under £2500', they'd have had a more realistic real-world test and no cheap laughs. They may even have had to use some real-world journalistic skills. Maybe that would be too difficult for them - just go for the rancid cheap laughs, that's much easier..... [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

I think you're forgetting that To Gear is an entertainment programme, loosely based around cars...  ...it hasn't been a serious review programme for years - its 3 middle aged men arsing around, and for that I like it.

I haven't forgotten that it's failed to "entertain" me in many years.
What's wrong with expecting more from the premier motoring programme on TV than 3 abject berks arseing about? WITH OUR BLOODY LICENCE FEE MONEY???

Don't we already suffer from more than enough 'lowest common-denominator' programmes of all tripes and stripes?

:y

[FoxyV6]

i watched both the special programmes. i really enjoyed them, wouldnt catch me driving through iraq though

the baby jesus stig was hilarious

[TheBoy]

Oh my, you've got me started on Top Gear now... [smiley=rolleyes.gif]

EVERY time they "test" some meaningful, real-world car, especially older, used cars (think 'Supercars for under £1500' episode, or 'BL did make some quite decent cars' episode, with SD1, Dolomite Sprint & Ambassador), the budget is so ridiculous it's no wonder the cars fail under harsh treatment. If they'd done 'Supercars for under £5000', or 'Good BL cars for under £2500', they'd have had a more realistic real-world test and no cheap laughs. They may even have had to use some real-world journalistic skills. Maybe that would be too difficult for them - just go for the rancid cheap laughs, that's much easier..... [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

I think you're forgetting that To Gear is an entertainment programme, loosely based around cars...  ...it hasn't been a serious review programme for years - its 3 middle aged men arsing around, and for that I like it.

I haven't forgotten that it's failed to "entertain" me in many years.
What's wrong with expecting more from the premier motoring programme on TV than 3 abject berks arseing about? WITH OUR BLOODY LICENCE FEE MONEY???

Don't we already suffer from more than enough 'lowest common-denominator' programmes of all tripes and stripes?

:y

Its not a MOTORING programme!

They could fill the slots with cheap-to-make trailer trash TV - x-factor/big brother/jungle dweebs/come dancing dial-a-prat type shows. I, for one, think we have enough of those programmes.

[feeutfo]

Yes, and they're ALL on itv, except for gayenders and Deal or no Deal on 4. and Itv is the one channel I never watch unless it's champions league.

[tonyyeb]

Oh my, you've got me started on Top Gear now... [smiley=rolleyes.gif]

EVERY time they "test" some meaningful, real-world car, especially older, used cars (think 'Supercars for under £1500' episode, or 'BL did make some quite decent cars' episode, with SD1, Dolomite Sprint & Ambassador), the budget is so ridiculous it's no wonder the cars fail under harsh treatment. If they'd done 'Supercars for under £5000', or 'Good BL cars for under £2500', they'd have had a more realistic real-world test and no cheap laughs. They may even have had to use some real-world journalistic skills. Maybe that would be too difficult for them - just go for the rancid cheap laughs, that's much easier..... [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

I think you're forgetting that To Gear is an entertainment programme, loosely based around cars...  ...it hasn't been a serious review programme for years - its 3 middle aged men arsing around, and for that I like it.

I haven't forgotten that it's failed to "entertain" me in many years.
What's wrong with expecting more from the premier motoring programme on TV than 3 abject berks arseing about? WITH OUR BLOODY LICENCE FEE MONEY???

Don't we already suffer from more than enough 'lowest common-denominator' programmes of all tripes and stripes?

:y

Its not a MOTORING programme!

They could fill the slots with cheap-to-make trailer trash TV - x-factor/big brother/jungle dweebs/come dancing dial-a-prat type shows. I, for one, think we have enough of those programmes.

It IS trailer-trash TV! Can't quite see the distinction you're making!

[ianu]

..I personnally didn't think the Iraq episode was their best - may be a bit tooooo much production that made it a bit toooo far fetched.
BUT - I recall the trip to the North Pole in the Toyota Pick Up's, the trip to the top of a mountain in a Disco', playing with a RR Sport on Salisbury Plain, several Bugatti Veyron episodes.. and many other memorable fantasy episodes by probably the luckiest blokes on the planet - and I forgive them.
Touchwood - I'll never ever need to drive in this area - let alone be on a plane that lands in it - so probably despite the huge crew that had to accompany them - thanks for the entertainment - I found it somewhat less uncomfortable to watch than Mr Walliams and the intensley annoying little twit that follows him around..

Looking forward to the rest of the TG series coming up...
Cheers
Ian

[jonnycool]

I know it may not be everyone's cup of tea, but Top Gear and Match of the Day are the only programmes I never miss. Clarkson's one of the best things on telly 

[tunnie]

BBC can never cope for all tastes, but tonyyeb your in the minority. Top Gear is a hugely popular show, not just in the UK, but world wide. Its a cracking show I love them all, its the only thing I actually look forward to on TV.

By 'Premier' motor shows do you mean that shite that is 5th Gear? Its more interesting reading Nickbats posts   

What other shows are there? Oh yesss Used Car Roadshow!

As others have pointed out, its not a motoring show, its an entrainment program. Its interesting you say you sat there in pain watching it, TV's have this wonderful feature called a 'Remote' So why don't you switch channels are stop your moaning?

[Shackeng]

BBC can never cope for all tastes, but tonyyeb your in the minority. Top Gear is a hugely popular show, not just in the UK, but world wide. Its a cracking show I love them all, its the only thing I actually look forward to on TV.

By 'Premier' motor shows do you mean that shite that is 5th Gear? Its more interesting reading Nickbats posts   

What other shows are there? Oh yesss Used Car Roadshow!

As others have pointed out, its not a motoring show, its an entrainment program. Its interesting you say you sat there in pain watching it, TV's have this wonderful feature called a 'Remote' So why don't you switch channels are stop your moaning?

Just because he's in the minority does not make him wrong! 

[Andy B]

...
Just because he's in the minority does not make him wrong! 

why doesn't it?     
         

[Andy B]

Oh my, you've got me started on Top Gear now... [smiley=rolleyes.gif]  .....

Switch it off or turn over then! 

Even Mrs Andy B will watch it, cos as said, it's not now a motoring programme.

[Dishevelled Den]

I've just finished watching that episode,  I found it very enjoyable.

[feeutfo]

Even Mrs G loves it. In fact she often reminds me it's on.

[TheBoy]

..I personnally didn't think the Iraq episode was their best - may be a bit tooooo much production that made it a bit toooo far fetched.
BUT - I recall the trip to the North Pole in the Toyota Pick Up's, the trip to the top of a mountain in a Disco', playing with a RR Sport on Salisbury Plain, several Bugatti Veyron episodes.. and many other memorable fantasy episodes by probably the luckiest blokes on the planet - and I forgive them.
Touchwood - I'll never ever need to drive in this area - let alone be on a plane that lands in it - so probably despite the huge crew that had to accompany them - thanks for the entertainment - I found it somewhat less uncomfortable to watch than Mr Walliams and the intensley annoying little twit that follows him around..

Looking forward to the rest of the TG series coming up...
Cheers
Ian

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Top Gear was the only BBC programme I actually bothered to set the system to record this Christmas.  But everyone is different - I mean if you listened to the viewing figures (which I think are heavily skewed), 10m chavs watch Knobenders regularly - that is 1 out of 6 man, woman and child in the UK.