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the pics of wheelarch rust removal. hope it helps
« on: 30 January 2011, 17:42:35 »

Hi there, hope you're all well.

I have just finished removing the rust, filling and respraying my wheel arch.

im really pleased that the rust has gone for now but i defo need to respray as that didnt go brilliantly.

well anyway here's pics of what i used and what i did and as long as you dont balls up the spraying part like me it will all be great :)

first off, the bits i had to buy......


you will note i bought a grey primer but actually i went and bought a white primer in the end cos i wanted a lighter finish than last time.

the problem.......


not too bad but annoying!

pic of the area covered in rust remover....


....and how the rust remover removed rust easily (after 5 or 6 coats and 20-30 mins between each coat. bad photo but it is down to the metal.


then once residue of rust remover fully dried and a clean later i filled it with the p38 filler. ive got to say this stuff rather stinks and i nearly vommed. as per the pic below i mixed it up and layered it on thick.


sanded it down by hand using the sand paper taken from my black n decker mouse. firstly used the coarse sand paper to shape and finished off with fine paper. i couldnt have hoped for a better finish. and the pic below shows it sanded, cleaned and primed (colour white)

unfortunately my camera is full of memory so i couldnt take photos of the finished paint spray/lacker afterwards but ill get these tomorrow.

as i said the only way i ballsed it up was cos id sprayed a bit of primer under the newspaper.

ill rectify this prob next weekend.

ill be honest this is the first thing ive really done diy style to do with my car. not bad i think and ill rectify spray next weekend. at least its better than being rusty :)

i hope this helps :)
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Re: the pics of wheelarch rust removal. hope it helps
« Reply #1 on: 30 January 2011, 17:46:06 »

oops sorry forgot the pic of sanded, cleaned and primed.................

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« Reply #2 on: 30 January 2011, 19:19:49 »

The rust will reappear within weeks. simply painting rust remover over rusted steel will do nothing. you should have ground out ALL the rotted metal and filled it firstly with a chopped strand glassfibre filler and finished off with a polyester paste filler prior to sanding and painting.
Also, to prevent the rust from returning oil should be introduced behind the repair(accessed from within the boot area) and underseal applied under the wheelarch :y
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« Reply #3 on: 30 January 2011, 19:38:50 »

to be honest i just followed the advice of the bloke in halfords.  if it comes back ill do it again... will keep me out the wife's way  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: the pics of wheelarch rust removal. hope it helps
« Reply #4 on: 30 January 2011, 19:46:22 »

Yep, I think you'll need to attack the reason why it's rusted first then cut out any rust and rebuild it back.

However, what you have done will slow it down a little.  :y

Incidently, as long as you don't have a towbar fitted you can take the rear bumper off in about 10 mins.  :y
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« Reply #5 on: 30 January 2011, 19:50:13 »

cheers guys, ill keep my eye on it and whatever the result ill let you guys know :):) sharing best practises and all ;)
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« Reply #6 on: 30 January 2011, 19:59:00 »

Looks like you missed a rust bubble there, too (just to the right of the treated area)?

And yeah.. only one answer unfortunately.. hack it out with the grinder.
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« Reply #7 on: 30 January 2011, 22:16:04 »

i'm geussing we'll be seeing these photos again in around about six months but i take my hat off to all diy'ers good for you we all learn by doing and next time i would advise in a grinder rust preventitive is all in well but it wont kill rust it's more preventitive than anything!
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« Reply #8 on: 30 January 2011, 22:18:06 »

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i'm geussing we'll be seeing these photos again in around about six months but i take my hat off to all diy'ers good for you we all learn by doing and next time i would advise in a grinder rust preventitive is all in well but it wont kill rust it's more preventitive than anything!

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« Reply #9 on: 30 January 2011, 22:20:06 »

the way it should be done is grind all the rust away to bare metal,then use the rust converter,wash it of with plenty of water,then use your filler,when its dry sand it down,then cover wih etch primer,then use filler primer,rub down with some fine paper then spray top coat.
as said before if you can do the inside as well you on a winner.
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« Reply #10 on: 30 January 2011, 22:22:58 »

I went mad with Waxoyl in the arches about 3 - 4 years ago
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« Reply #11 on: 31 January 2011, 17:52:56 »

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I went mad with Waxoyl in the arches about 3 - 4 years ago

That explains it!    ;D

Obviously the meds are having little effect now?  Best book an appointment with a suitable medical proffesional.....   :y 
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« Reply #12 on: 31 January 2011, 18:20:13 »

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I went mad with Waxoyl in the arches about 3 - 4 years ago

That explains it!    ;D

Obviously the meds are having little effect now?  Best book an appointment with a suitable medical proffesional.....   :y 

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« Reply #13 on: 31 January 2011, 22:55:39 »

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I went mad with Waxoyl in the arches about 3 - 4 years ago

That explains it!    ;D

Obviously the meds are having little effect now?  Best book an appointment with a suitable medical proffesional.....   :y 

ROFLOL

Fantastic. I went mad wth Waxoyl!

Webby. I couldn't see any rust to be treated. I took your photo and enlarged it on Photoshop. Only then could I see a tiny,tiny blemish. If you want to practice on real rust you can do mine. I think you can actually see into the back through one patch of real rust on the back door.  ;D ;D ;D 
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« Reply #14 on: 01 February 2011, 00:37:36 »

I dont know a hell of a lot about painting etc. But I would offer two tips.
1.Dont use Halfords paint - its shite
2.Dont take advice from Halfords staff - they,re shite.
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